Jazz and Knicks discussing Donovan Mitchell trade per Shams Charania and Tony Jones

[Elizah Huge]

Curious as to why RJ to the Lakers is such a no-go.

For one, why would we do that when they can take back some of our players like Bogey and Beasley instead?

 

[margodydek]

For one, why would we do that when they can take back some of our players like Bogey and Beasley instead?

I don't know, just throwing it out there, that maybe LAL wants Barrett more than they want Bogey and Beasley?

 

[margodydek]

If we’re being serious about a potential three-way trade with the Knicks and Lakers it looks more like this:

We send out Donovan and Gay to the Knicks, Bogey and Beasley to the Lakers.

We take back RJ, Fournier, 3 unprotected 1sts, 2 protected 1sts from the Knicks and Westbrook plus two unprotected 1sts from the Lakers.

The Knicks take back Donovan and Gay.

The Lakers take back Bogey, Beasley and Reddish.

We end up with RJ, Fournier and Westbrook plus 5 unprotected 1sts and 2 protected 1sts.

I like this. I'd consider the idea of subbing out RJ for Grimes + Toppin, but overall I like this. I don't think we were actually that far off. I may have gotten a little overzealous with trying to get Toppin and Grimes in my trade as well. Only reason I started thinking about RJ to LAL was I listened to the Knicks Film School podcast and they were talking about the wording of the Woj tweets from last night, and they didn't come out and say it, but they made it seem like the wording (which was really from RJ's agent) was a little odd, and something else (besides a straight deal to UTA) was afoot.

 

[NUMBERICA]

If we’re being serious about a potential three-way trade with the Knicks and Lakers it looks more like this:

We send out Donovan and Gay to the Knicks, Bogey and Beasley to the Lakers.

We take back RJ, Fournier, 3 unprotected 1sts, 2 protected 1sts from the Knicks and Westbrook plus two unprotected 1sts from the Lakers.

The Knicks take back Donovan and Gay.

The Lakers take back Bogey, Beasley and Reddish.

We end up with RJ, Fournier and Westbrook plus 5 unprotected 1sts and 2 protected 1sts.

Lakers need more for their picks and we have more win now pieces than we need. Just dump 'em out.

 

[Elizah Huge]

Lakers need more for their picks and we have more win now pieces than we need. Just dump 'em out.

Even if that package only gets one of their picks I’d do it. Does adding Vanderbilt get it done? Or Quickley from the Knicks with Reddish?

 

[Elizah Huge]

I like this. I'd consider the idea of subbing out RJ for Grimes + Toppin, but overall I like this. I don't think we were actually that far off. I may have gotten a little overzealous with trying to get Toppin and Grimes in my trade as well. Only reason I started thinking about RJ to LAL was I listened to the Knicks Film School podcast and they were talking about the wording of the Woj tweets from last night, and they didn't come out and say it, but they made it seem like the wording (which was really from RJ's agent) was a little odd, and something else (besides a straight deal to UTA) was afoot.

Overall your head is in the right space I just don’t see RJ to the Lakers under any circumstance. Including the Lakers actually helps us get RJ due to the PPP provision. We can send additional salary out to the Lakers in the same deal. The more we send out the more we can take in, etc.

 

[Handlogten's Heros]

If we’re being serious about a potential three-way trade with the Knicks and Lakers it looks more like this:

We send out Donovan and Gay to the Knicks, Bogey and Beasley to the Lakers.

We take back RJ, Fournier, 3 unprotected 1sts, 2 protected 1sts from the Knicks and Westbrook plus two unprotected 1sts from the Lakers.

The Knicks take back Donovan and Gay.

The Lakers take back Bogey, Beasley and Reddish.

We end up with RJ, Fournier and Westbrook plus 5 unprotected 1sts and 2 protected 1sts.

And I could see one of the protecteds going to LA in this scenario... its not the amount of picks its the quality. We can get protected picks for Vando or other pieces later.

 

[Elizah Huge]

And I could see one of the protecteds going to LA in this scenario... its not the amount of picks its the quality. We can get protected picks for Vando or other pieces later.

Yes, I agree with that. Hell, depending on the protected picks in the deal they can have them both as far as I’m concerned. We come away with RJ and 5 unprotected 1sts. That’s a dream come true.

 

[Handlogten's Heros]

Yes, I agree with that. Hell, depending on the protected picks in the deal they can have them both as far as I’m concerned. We come away with RJ and 5 unprotected 1sts. That’s a dream come true.

And if its an absolute no go for the Knicks to send 3 unprotected picks I would take 23/28 and do swaps in 25/27 (with Minny) and we take all the protected picks.

I want Toppin in all the scenarios as well... since I think he is almost guaranteed to be included and would be fun.

 

[Jazz Spazz]

What are the odds Ainge is just digging in to his Boston roots and has just been messing with NY this whole time with zero intention to trade DM there? He's just laughing on a beach in Cancun while his Zoom background is an office?

 

[idiot]

I don’t know… Barrett/Grimes + 5 1sts is a ridiculous haul regardless if only 2 were unprotected.

If I'm too far behind in the convo, just ignore this, but was there any reporting that this was the offer from NY?

 

[JimLes]

If we’re being serious about a potential three-way trade with the Knicks and Lakers it looks more like this:

In my experience, getting involved in a three-way will only end in you getting screwed.