Jazz and Knicks discussing Donovan Mitchell trade per Shams Charania and Tony Jones

[idiot]

I outlined it above. Essentially a Lowry/Strus package to Dallas while taking back Bertans salary and salary filler coming to us with their 2025 1st.

4 unprotected 1sts and 3 pick swaps + Herro + Jovic + Yurtseven is a realistic package they could come up with.

The post I replied to seemingly said 5 firsts plus Herro.

 

[Coach Ellis]

Which is why we should take the best offer of the two (Knicks or Heat) and move forward.

I disagree. If the Knicks or someone else wants to give a godfather offer to get him, then you make the deal. If they continue to not have or withhold valuable assets, you walk away.

Tell Donovan that we’re going to hang onto him for now, but we’re getting the young guys experience and rebuilding. We hope he’s with us on that, but we’ll keep an open mind to moving him if we get an offer that makes sense.

Bolmaro, Conley, JB (Beverley trade)
Mitchell, Beasley, NAW (JC trade)
Fonteccio, (sign Watanabe) (Bogdanovic trade)
Vanderbilt, Gay, (sign Cobaclo)
Kessler, Azibuke

Trade Bogey, JC and Beverley for some sort of value.

That team’s not going anywhere in the west - but Donovan probably puts up huge numbers on a bad/inexperienced team.

 

[NUMBERICA]

Tony Jones on with Checketts said he'd put the odds a deal gets done by training camp at 75/25. Says the Jazz really want Grimes and Toppin and the Knicks want to keep Grimes. The two sides still have a lot to hammer out.

If this is about actual players then this is ****ing stupid.

 

[Handlogten's Heros]

They can keep Grimes just give us 6 1sts.

We are in the offer gathering stage for the next week or so. It will happen before training camp.

 

[Jingled]

Tony Jones on with Checketts said he'd put the odds a deal gets done by training camp at 75/25. Says the Jazz really want Grimes and Toppin and the Knicks want to keep Grimes. The two sides still have a lot to hammer out.

Tony also said the Knicks are willing to give 5 first round picks but they want 4 of them to be protected picks that will most likely land in the 20's.

 

[Handlogten's Heros]

If this is about actual players then this is ****ing stupid.

It is and it isn't. If you know they are being stingy with picks you say you want the players because that is what they really want. You leak some stuff about Herro or other packages that are better than what the Knicks are offering... None of it has to be real.

 

[Saint Cy of JFC]

Which is why we should take the best offer of the two (Knicks or Heat) and move forward.

Sure, but my point is that with my plan, you have until the deadline to bluff without it hurting you.

 

[Thee Jazz Fan]

Lopo preparing the next spin: Donovan didnt want out until Jazzfanz.com forced his hand.

Just stop already, it’s old and annoying

 

[Saint Cy of JFC]

Tony Jones on with Checketts said he'd put the odds a deal gets done by training camp at 75/25. Says the Jazz really want Grimes and Toppin and the Knicks want to keep Grimes. The two sides still have a lot to hammer out.

That makes me happy. I definitely prefer those two over Quickley.

 

[Saint Cy of JFC]

Just stop already, it’s old and annoying

Stop what?

 

[Thee Jazz Fan]

The Jazz's best way to make New York reconsider their trade package:

1. Tell NYK they are keeping Mitchell with the idea of a 1 year tank into a rebuild
2. Draft Victor #1
3. Trade Clarkson/Bogey/Gay all off the team to maximize assets and cap room for 2023
4. Sign max free agents. Go out and overpay for Khris Middleton and Andrew Wiggins.
5. Compete

Obviously a lot of **** has to go right for this to work, but it at least is something the Jazz can legitimately act like they are doing and NYK will have to respect it.

I concur with this.

 

[Saint Cy of JFC]

Tony also said the Knicks are willing to give 5 first round picks but they want 4 of them to be protected picks that will most likely land in the 20's.

If they are likely to land in the 20's why is NYK so pressed about protecting them?