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Jazz and Knicks discussing Donovan Mitchell trade per Shams Charania and Tony Jones

Yeah, he is better than Grimes, but I would rather have Grimes if I'm doing a rebuild and want to build an optimal team.
How certain are we Grimes will be good, let alone great? Like... what he did in SL was good, but ... that was SL. SL is made for ballhandling guards and tons of them can't translate what they do in SL to the league.
 
How certain are we Grimes will be good, let alone great? Like... what he did in SL was good, but ... that was SL. SL is made for ballhandling guards and tons of them can't translate what they do in SL to the league.
He was already good his rookie year....
 
Isnt that based off the Fat Joe rumor?


A podcast on The Ringer brought up Miami as a preferred destination for Mitchell -- https://twitter.com/loganmmurdock -- https://heavy.com/sports/miami-heat/donovan-mitchell-eyeing-heat-trade/

It was also part of the chatter from the Miami Heat realgm guy. But that's just loose corroboration.

Mitchell has also been training in the Miami area for much of the offseason.
 
Grimes/Toppin/Quickley cost less than Herro will in two years, but when we are trying to be good and the cap actually matters… Herro could be cheaper than several of those guys individually. The cap jumps 30-50% so shouldn’t you be interested in guys you can lock in now. We could give Tyler a 5 year extension for like 130-140 and you have him under contract for 6/135-145 and the worst years will be when we have infinity cap space and not a lot of uses for it.
 
Mitchell preferring to go to Miami surprises me zero percent. Seems pretty obvious TBH.

Fortunately I think Mitchell's preferred destination matters zero, outside of fairly nuanced ways (i.e., "preferred" team offering better package knowing Mitchell will likely re-sign).
 
He was already good his rookie year....
Why didn't he play more if he was this good? I will admit - I have not watched him play(who the hell watches random Knicks games?) ... but NONE of his impact and advanced stats are good. NONE!
RPM - 261st, EPM - 262nd, RAPM - 455th, RAPTOR - 212th, LEBRON - 411th...
 
Even a tanking team needs a marquee player to attract attendance, sell jerseys, be on billboards, etc. I think Herro would fit that bill nicely, as long as there is some agreement for a contract extension before we acquire him.

I'm not very interested in him long term, but theoretically he would retain/increase his value and be an asset we could use later.
 
Why didn't he play more if he was this good? I will admit - I have not watched him play(who the hell watches random Knicks games?) ... but NONE of his impact and advanced stats are good. NONE!
RPM - 261st, EPM - 262nd, RAPM - 455th, RAPTOR - 212th, LEBRON - 411th...
He played on a team with no PG play and for Thibs.

He was a good defender who shot a good percentage on a good volume from 3. That's rare for a rookie and then he followed up with an impressive SL.
 
He’s probably a good 3 and D guy but does he have a ton more to his game? He’s also the same age as Herro.
I prefer a good 3&D player to a scorer who doesnt defend. I want my stars/max players to be more versatile than Herro.

Again, not saying he sucks. I just wouldnt start my rebuild off with a guy as flawed as him. I dont want Don 1.5
 
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