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Jazz and Knicks discussing Donovan Mitchell trade per Shams Charania and Tony Jones

Elizah Huge said:
He wasn’t but you take the chance on him becoming that while also getting a **** ton of other assets. You don’t make that deal unless you believe in Ingram.
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Or unless you kinda have no other choice and are left with the best of a sub-optimal situation.

In any event, I think we agree more than we disagree on the goals, I just think we have a night-vs-day difference of opinion on RJ Barrett. At best, I think he's the third best player on a legit contender, and that's if he continues to develop (becomes a lot more efficient and a significantly better shooter).
 
I think RJ at the same age is pretty comparable to Ingram. Ingram was a little more efficient but Donovan also isn’t Anthony Davis either.
 
Brandon Ingram first 3 years stats:

13.9 PPG, 4.7 RPG, 2.9 APG, 45.8% from the field (11.5 attempts) and 32.9% from 3

RJ Barrett first 3 years stats:

17.5 PPG, 5.6 RPG, 2.9 APG, 41.8% from the field (15.1 attempts) and 35.7% from 3

This isn’t the end all be all of course but RJ is the exact type of piece we need in a Donovan deal. You bank on him becoming more efficient and he’s an all-star caliber type of player.
 
The only knock on Barrett is efficiency and if he was more efficient early on he wouldn’t be included in the deal at all lol.

He has the makings of being a pretty good shooter. His main inefficiency is with two-pointers which I think is fixable.
 
Elizah Huge said:
Brandon Ingram first 3 years stats:

13.9 PPG, 4.7 RPG, 2.9 APG, 45.8% from the field (11.5 attempts) and 32.9% from 3

RJ Barrett first 3 years stats:

17.5 PPG, 5.6 RPG, 2.9 APG, 41.8% from the field (15.1 attempts) and 35.7% from 3

This isn’t the end all be all of course but RJ is the exact type of piece we need in a Donovan deal. You bank on him becoming more efficient and he’s an all-star caliber type of player.
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Eh. Ingram showed pretty significant improvement in efficiency from Year 1 to Year 2 and again from Year 2 to Year 3.

Barrett actually got a lot *worse* from Year 2 to Year 3.
 
Another reason I'm happy to keep RJ in NY is it complicates their cap situation and also makes it so their main lineup is four dudes that want to pound the rock with 0 dynamic pick and roll bigs. Sure, it could work, it could also be a cluster-****.

So if you can do that AND get more unprotected picks in the process, well, I'm about that.
 
NUMBERICA said:
Another reason I'm happy to keep RJ in NY is it complicates their cap situation and also makes it so their main lineup is four dudes that want to pound the rock with 0 dynamic pick and roll bigs. Sure, it could work, it could also be a cluster-****.

So if you can do that AND get more unprotected picks in the process, well, I'm about that.
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Its weird because I think we come out of this with Grimes who is a much better fit than RJ. I think RJ might have fit what we would need better.

Again... I don't care if we do the RJ variation as much as just wanting a fair deal and wanting it before camp.
 
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