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Utesnjazz said:
I don’t know what is and isn’t racist anymore. This whole thing has been crazy. I guess just don’t talk to them is the safe thing to do.
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Honestly, certain things are pretty clear about what is racist. Calling African Americans names that have been historically used to demean and oppress them is pretty clearly racist. If you're not sure about something, then just don't. The cost to you of not doing so is really quite small.
 
RobDMB said:
My question in all of this: How many fans are gonna get lifetime bans when a particularly sensitive player points security at an annoying fan for being "mean" (without any evidence, or any actual racism/hate)? Is this gonna be exploited during playoff games to silence the crowd? Or is that just a paranoid idea?

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It's a paranoid idea.
 
idestroyedthetoilet said:
Strange how the more removed from slavery and more equality we get the more sensitive we've become. It's almost as if these hypersensitive AF white boys need something racist to happen to wallow in their guilt.
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I hope this is parody. You do realize don't you that this is the very type of dog whistle BS that racists everywhere spout when something like this happens? You've misread your audience (with the exception of CJ who probably got a woody on reading it). When normal people read this kind of stuff, they don't think, "wow, that's insightful," they think, "wow, that guy's a racist douche."
 
One Brow said:
If the guy next to you is yelling racist stuff, and you are not saying anything, the guy next to you is making you look bad. If you don't like it, don't show up for Jazz games. The crowd is treated as, and often acts like, a single entity, and what others do and you don't object to reflects on you.



So, you don't mind when people refer to you as a knuckle-walking low-browed self-blinding bonobo? I mean, if you object, just let me know, because I would not want to call you that if it was offensive to you. Of course, since you are not going to get all hypersensitive and PC on me, you won't bother to object, right?



Anyone can be prejudiced (and pretty much everyone is), and anyone can be bigoted. Racism involves the social power structure, and you can only be racist when supporting that power structure. So, black people are racist when they show bigotry to other black people (for example, Jesse Lee Peterson), but since the power structures favor white people the most, white people can not be the victims of racism (although they can be the victims of prejudice and bigotry).



If you were really respectful of all people, you wouldn't need to be guilted into fighting racism, you would be doing it out of you respect for all people.



I'm sure it is making things worse for you. It's making things better for me.
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I disagree, strongly, with some aspects of this.

But the main point I wanted to make is in regards to the first paragraph.

No, don’t leave or stop attending. Speak up on the damn spot and call that person out. Change the conversation at the moment it happens. People will continue to behave this way until confronted and shown a better way. Don’t run and hide. Stand up and speak up. As you do so you will inspire others to do the same. Either on the spot or later in another instance they see.
 
jimmy eat jazz said:
I hope this is parody. You do realize don't you that this is the very type of dog whistle BS that racists everywhere spout when something like this happens? You've misread your audience (with the exception of CJ who probably got a woody on reading it). When normal people read this kind of stuff, they don't think, "wow, that's insightful," they think, "wow, that guy's a racist douche."
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I'll let somebody else explain to you what dog whistle means.
 
idestroyedthetoilet said:
I'll let somebody else explain to you what dog whistle means.
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I know well what it means.

You don't want to actually say something overtly racist, so you use code words and phrases plainly understood by the in group as to what you really mean. Making light of racist statements and implying that those who are offended by them are pansies or suffering from white guilt, etc., pure dog whistle.
 
NAOS said:
I see that @fishonjazz has more than double the number of posts of the next highest poster this week. That's obviously due, in part, to his high-quality work in this thread. smh.
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Ya i probably shouldnt have talked about this issue. My bad. Should have remained silent.


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I’d love to see some type of video like this done by Dwayne Johnson, Chris Evans, Ken Nwadike, the Pope, Danai Gurira, Keith Ellison, the Prophet, Steve Jobs, LeBron James, Serena Williams, Dhalai Lama, Julia Roberts, Adele, AOC, Lenny Kravitz, Michael Phelps...

Mix huge names in religion, politics, music, sports, literature, education, cinema, business...

Include the major groups across the board.
 
NAOS said:
getting him to stfu would hardly be useless. If anybody is taking his particular brand of "middle of the road" to heart, then that aint good. In short, he should stfu.
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Agreed. World would be much less racist and a better place in general if there were less discussion and if i just decided that i dont want to try to learn anything about something im ignorant about. My bad for trying to prompt people to tell me thier thoughts and ideas on the matter. Staying ignorant and silent was the better option in this case.


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Last night i was outside a bar having a smoke when a fight broke out. 4 guys were beating the **** out of one dude. The dude was down on the sidewalk getting punched and kicked.
I jumped in and started pulling people off the guy since i dont like to see people get hurt and didnt want the guy to die. It was a difficult process the get them to stop attacking the man and thank god a bouncer eventually got there to help me stop the attack.

After it was over and the man escaped and took off i was talking to the attackers to figure out what happened.
One of the attackers was a black man and he told me that the guy had used the N word with a hard er at the end. He was really shaken up.

A little while later i was in the bathroom peeing and he was in there on his phone talking to someone about the incident. He was still really shaken up and angry.

When he came out of the bathroom and was off the phone i went up to him and told him that i was sorry he had to go through that. He thanked me for stopping the fight and shared an embrace with me.

Racism sucks but at least i think i know a bit more about it today than i did a week ago. This thread and some of the people in it helped i think.


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