Jazz front runner for Conley

[MVP]

the dude had ZERO room to operate dude. Having guys on the court that need to be guarded at a high level can only be a really good thing for Donovan.

That's my point, we won't win with Rudy playing 4 on 5 offense... Gasol was in a way similar defensive presence for Raptors but big difference was he was able to pass and stretch the floor. Until Rudy learns how to shoot we are flawed.

 

[Ron Mexico]

now that is basically making assumption/excuses. again, how much hindsight does it require for you, for me, for any fans who watch the game of basketball, to come to a conclusion of "Lopez > Georgis Niang"?

Yeah, you can say that other 28 GMs would've kicked themselves for missing out on Lopez too, but that is why there is only so few of those Championship contending teams each year. if we as Utah Jazz want to take that next step and become a Championship contending team, we should hold our team and our GM to such standards. and we can't win if we don't play

Brook Lopez chose to sign with a playoff team he could start for. Was that an option with the Jazz? No. He would not sign here or even consider here based on that situation.


We were never a team Lopez would consider. It is not a matter of just choosing a player they also have to choose us and our situation. Its more than just being a small market or not. Just like when JJ turned down other teams and chose to sign here. It was a good situation for him that year. It turned out well for us.

 

[jom2003]

That made me double take. If we traded Ingles.....

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who else can we realistically put on the table besides Favors? Memphis be doing us a BIG favor if they take any of Allen, Neto, Niang, or Bradley. but that is unlikely to happen, so......

 

[Bawse Dawg]

I **** my pants for a few seconds when I saw it. So you all need to as well.

 

[infection]

TLDR thread

Is it happening?

I picked a ****** time to get a new job and move to a new city.

My supposition is that these talks continued, as was expected, but because it’s being reported, it’s picked up more perceived steam when it may fundamentally be the same as it always has been.

Where are you moving?

 

[Ron Mexico]

the issue is never about whether or not we could, rather it is about whether or not we would. why else do you think we are in such bad place for trade talks right now? you kept saying we could still get the type of signings I mentioned, but how often has DL actually taken the step of making those signings?

we are so concerned with signing those "big name players" even though it is never supposed to be how us as a small market team should be looking at to build a contending team.

Has milwaukee signed any major "big-names" in order for them to become competitive? what they got are "supporting cast". strong role players around Giannis that made their system work.

we should do the same.

again, if Randle/Lopez/whoever, didn't work out, we can always trade them. and there is no trading Conley, or Neto/Niang/Thabo, etc.

No, it is defitely about if we could with FAs that upgrade our roster. We are not just ignoring players that improve us. Just because its not announced does not mean the FO is doing their due diligence. They are very active.

Yes, Bucks have picked up through FA or trades some really good players. They have big names a solid roster. They then filled in the starting center with a good player that wanted to start. It was a great fit for both parties, unlike the Jazz that was a bad fit for both parties and neither side would consider it.

Conley is tradeable. Hence the trade market for him. That market will exist next year as well and the year after. Maybe it goes slightly down. But we also become a much better team. Which is the whole goal.

The Jazz are not making a trade like the Raptors did. They traded their best player for Kawhi. We were not going to trade Gobert or Mitchell for Kawhi. That is what it took to get a player like that. Other than that we should get the best players we can at the position we need the most. I am not sure what magical trade you are wanting us to hold out for that we cant make later.

Conley is a really good PG. Better than anyone we have had since Dwill.

We can pick up role players later if there is a need. Its much harder to get really good players than role players.

Conley doesnt handcuff the team. He opens up more options and makes us much better. He is a huge upgrade over Rubio.

 

[Ron Mexico]

who else can we realistically put on the table besides Favors? Memphis be doing us a BIG favors if they take any of Allen, Neto, Niang, or Bradley. but that is unlikely to happen, so......

Exum who all the rumors have said they want. Crowder and Korver also creates enough room. They also want more than anything picks, like most teams rebuilding.

 

[Saint Cy of JFC]

Exum who all the rumors have said they want. Crowder and Korver also creates enough room. They also want more than anything picks, like most teams rebuilding.

So weird to me they want Exum (though they have to for the deal to happen money wise).

They going to draft Ja and they have the RFA rights to Delon Wright (who is just a lower ceiling/more realized version of Dante).

 

[LoPo]

If we missed out on Conley and the big free agents, I would be fine bringing back Favors then using our space to do deals like take Ilyasova and a future 1st or trade for Josh Jackson on the cheap or pick up a pick for taking a Miami player.

If we try in free agency by publicly throwing massive money at numerous players and we fail, so be it. That sucks, but we tried. Then we go the asset accumulation route for one off season. We take those assets and trade when the timing is right.

I want to try in free agency. I'm optimistic something good will happen.

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[jom2003]

If we missed out on Conley and the big free agents, I would be fine bringing back Favors then using our space to do deals like take Ilyasova and a future 1st or trade for Josh Jackson on the cheap or pick up a pick for taking a Miami player.

If we try in free agency by publicly throwing massive money at numerous players and we fail, so be it. That sucks, but we tried. Then we go the asset accumulation route for one off season. We take those assets and trade when the timing is right.

I want to try in free agency. I'm optimistic something good will happen.

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we should

 

[Ron Mexico]

So weird to me they want Exum (though they have to for the deal to happen money wise).

They going to draft Ja and they have the RFA rights to Delon Wright (who is just a lower ceiling/more realized version of Dante).

I think he has decent value around the league. Most teams look past injuries that aren't chronic or going to cause problems. They see a very young player with a high upside and a decent floor when healthy. Plus he can play 2 or 3 positions with his length.

 

[Mongoose]

Dude do you watch or understand basketball ?

Conley breaks down defenses can create his own shot drive the lane run the point has mastery of the pick roll and plays great d. Since DWill he will be our best pg offering in a huge while

He’s not as good as D-will was for us. So, I am still not convinced he’s a superstar. How many times do I have to say he’s a non all-star! He is the jazz status quo. **** Conley!