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Injuries didn't plague Raja. He's just a plague. I caught it through my TV and I still haven't washed it all off. I've had wet dreams where Jerry subbed in Palacio for Raja. The Raja Plague has no cure. You just get away as far as you can and deal with the tremors.
 
Jeffrey32 said:
Harris and Watson would probably be a Top 10 PG combo in the league. Between the two they should get beyond adequate production from that spot. Chris Paul and Jarrett Jack are probably the best PG start-bench combo, but Harris-Watson isn't so bad.

Memo should come back strong, and i would insert him back in the starting line-up. Memo and Jefferson is what the starting unit should have been last year and it should be this season 9whenever there may be a season). If Memo starts than Millsap cannot say anything about moving back to the bench... and becoming 6th man of the year.
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With memo-AJ we would get 60 ppg conceded in the paint
 
i think the only leader potential player in this team is Hayward. Jefferson, Harris cant do it, and most people would like to see Raja out of the roster rather than being a leader. But i think, if we make a package of Hayward and Jefferson, Millsap can step up as the veteran leader guy in our team even though he is pretty young. Anyway we dont need 10 guys to lead, we need just 1 and i think that will be Hayward sooner or later. Also we need some decent coaching as well
 
sepanol said:
i think the only leader potential player in this team is Hayward. Jefferson, Harris cant do it, and most people would like to see Raja out of the roster rather than being a leader. But i think, if we make a package of Hayward and Jefferson, Millsap can step up as the veteran leader guy in our team even though he is pretty young. Anyway we dont need 10 guys to lead, we need just 1 and i think that will be Hayward sooner or later. Also we need some decent coaching as well
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I can definitely see Millsap be the team leader, just like Udonis Haslem is the "team-leader" of the Miami Heat; and quite frankly, the difference between him and Haslem is that Millsap WILL be playing in clutch time, and hes probably one of our most clutch players. Therefore, even if hes a bench player 2 years down the line, I can still see him be an effective leader because hell be there for the team when we need him most, AND he has a history of bailing us out of some ridiculous situations. Not to mention the guy is an absolute class-act, and a great example of a professional athlete.
 
Jeffrey32 said:
If Memo starts than Millsap cannot say anything about moving back to the bench... and becoming 6th man of the year.
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Sure he can. There aren't many teams that bring their best player off the bench. Memo + AJ would be an absolute turnstile.
 
Reading that just reminded me of the log jam we have at the 4-5. Millsap isn't a 3 and Favors certainly isn't either.
I would be shocked whenever next year starts if all three (Millsap, Jefferson, Okur) are still on the team.
 
PKM said:
CANNOT imagine Memo starting in place of Millsap. Can't even fathom.
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Here's a concept: whichever two of the four (AJ, EK, MO, PM) perform the best on the court get to start. Not the best in practice, not in the locker room, the best on the court.

In other words, if AJ scores but plays even worse D than Okur, then let PM and (MO or EK) start most of the time. (If Sloan didn't have the cojones to bench an eight-figure cornerstone, then I don't see Corbin doing so, but one can only dream about a play-for-performance policy.)
 
dalamon said:
I can definitely see Millsap be the team leader, just like Udonis Haslem is the "team-leader" of the Miami Heat; and quite frankly, the difference between him and Haslem is that Millsap WILL be playing in clutch time, and hes probably one of our most clutch players. Therefore, even if hes a bench player 2 years down the line, I can still see him be an effective leader because hell be there for the team when we need him most, AND he has a history of bailing us out of some ridiculous situations. Not to mention the guy is an absolute class-act, and a great example of a professional athlete.
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Is Millsap really one of our most clutch players? I mean, I remember the glory that was The Miami game, but other than that, when has he come up clutch? I maybe just can't remember, so feel free to tell me how it is.
 
Cyrone Torbin said:
Is Millsap really one of our most clutch players? I mean, I remember the glory that was The Miami game, but other than that, when has he come up clutch? I maybe just can't remember, so feel free to tell me how it is.
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He completely took over a game at Houston in the 4th Quarter last year. So he can, but not your "go to guy" in the 4th.
 
Okur13 said:
He completely took over a game at Houston in the 4th Quarter last year. So he can, but not your "go to guy" in the 4th.
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Maybe, this year was so pointless I can't really call anything anyone did that happened after Sloan and Dwill left as "clutch", since nothing mattered.
 
Millsap I think came up big twice against HOU and one was in HOU early in the year when DWill was still on the team, but I think while he can be clutch he is not the guy you want as the first option/creator, he's the 3rd or sometimes 2nd option (if he's on) you'd want to dish the ball off to.
 
//r00t 4 Jazz said:
Millsap I think came up big twice against HOU and one was in HOU early in the year when DWill was still on the team, but I think while he can be clutch he is not the guy you want as the first option/creator, he's the 3rd or sometimes 2nd option (if he's on) you'd want to dish the ball off to.
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He's the Jazz's most complete and efficient offensive player right now (it's not really all that close). He should have had far more touches last season.
 
GVC said:
He's the Jazz's most complete and efficient offensive player right now (it's not really all that close). He should have had far more touches last season.
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I'm sure you'd agree that with more touches his efficiency would drop some, hard to say how much though. Also I think it is in part because he was put in situations he was comfortable with and had DWill for example to help set him up, so if he had to do more on his own in spots/situations he wasn't as familiar with that would be a truer test if he is being under valued.

Oh and I love Millsap and I'm not doubting you saying he was by far the most efficient Jazz player and hopefully he'll have more help this year because if Millsap is the most complete and efficient (best) Jazz player that likely means another not so good season, IMO.
 
//r00t 4 Jazz said:
Millsap I think came up big twice against HOU and one was in HOU early in the year when DWill was still on the team, but I think while he can be clutch he is not the guy you want as the first option/creator, he's the 3rd or sometimes 2nd option (if he's on) you'd want to dish the ball off to.
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Yep, precisely the game I was thinking of. Absolutely destroyed Scola, I remember reading (and laughing) at the Rockets forum of how they wanted to trade Scola for Millsap ASAP.

In fact, most of the "one-player takes over the end of the game" instances weve had last season involved Millsap. Sure DWill got a game-winner, and so id Al Jeff, but I think Millsap was the only player who basically singlehandedly took over a game in clutch time.

Another fact we arent addressing is that there was a statistic posted for last season, saying that Al Jefferson was either #1 or #2 for most clutch centers in the NBA. Will try to find link.
 
AK was no leader. Nor Memo, and I doubt he willbe this year either. Hayward seems to be the likeliest. Being such a young team, I'd expect the Coach to keep a tight reign on the boys.
IMO, the only trade possibility of significance would involve Millsap, not because I want to trade him, but we could get a valuabe asset in return. A younger, more athletic PG would be nice, and let him split time with Harris...
 
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