Jazz Officially Matched Hayward According to Woj

[fishonjazz]

You understand the price for him to come to Utah would have been more, right?

Tell me how much more

 

[Elizah Huge]

You understand the price for him to come to Utah would have been more, right?

Tell me how much more

Ariza at 12 mil a year > Hayward at 16 mil a year

 

[QuinSnydersHair]

This debate is over now that the Hayward fan club is trying to drag Bosh down in order to build Hayward up.

As exciting as the draft was free agency has been equally depressing. Andrei Hayward just screwed us over big time. Sadly, we'll never be able to unload his albatross contract. And I agree, Snyder will now have to design his offense around a role Ayer and play him ahead of superior players (Hood and Burks) in order to justify the contract.

It's getting annoying how the Hayward fan club keeps compounding this Hayward debacle. Even last year they kept trying to justify him over George. Now you see them trying to justify this.

I don't understand it too. I'm a fan of the Utah Jazz. Not of any particular player. I just don't understand why he's so popular. Other than race, he looks Mormon, etc. burks is clearly the better player. But he's black and has tats.

Sad

Problem solved.

 

[UGLI baby]

Ariza at 12 mil a year > Hayward at 16 mil a year

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[da ThRONe]

I think one of the wrinkle in this deal is that with Burke and now Exum handling the ball and making plays, Hayward won't be made to create his own shots so much, he'll be spotting up a lot more and the FO hopes that Hayward will do a lot better in that role vs what he had to do last year.

You don't pay 16M's per season for a spot up shooter and role player. That's cap space that is reserved for guys that dictate to the defense with their offensive abilities.

 

[da ThRONe]

You understand the price for him to come to Utah would have been more, right?

The reports were he was looking for money between 9-11M's per. Even at the higher range he gives what Hayward does. And his contract doesn't come with funky kickers and he gives you what Hayward gives you minus the playmaking which he makes up for with better defense.

 

[richgates]

The reports were he was looking for money between 9-11M's per. Even at the higher range he gives what Hayward does. And his contract doesn't come with funky kickers and he gives you what Hayward gives you minus the playmaking which he makes up for with better defense.

People are being presumptuous that he would even go to Utah. Why are so many Jazz fans unable to see that quality FA's don't want to play there. Especially not when the team is that far removed from playoff caliber.

 

[gregbroncs]

I hope the people saying this will not hurt us in the future are correct. I just can't see this as a good move. But I really hope I'm wrong and that Hayward shows to be worth more than a lot of us think or that the salary cap goes up enough to make it bearable.
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Either way I think this is the 1st move I really disagree with since DL took over as GM.

 

[GVC]

The NBA GM's and agents do this for a living, every day. The thought that the Jazz got snookered is ridiculous. Hayward, regardless of offer, had no intention of signing it. There was no reason for him to because their was little downside.

So...Why did Favors sign an extension? Does his agent not do this for a living, every day? Was the downside different for Favors than it was for Gordo? Do you really think Gordo wouldn't have accepted $14mm per year?

Granted, the fanbase and media would have gone nuts had the Jazz signed Gordo to an extension at $14mm per year, but that alone isn't a good reason not to offer it. In the end, Gordo's agent was right, DL and Favors' agent were wrong.

 

[Diamond77]

You understand the price for him to come to Utah would have been more, right?

For me this story that good players dislike to move to SLC is a an urban legend.

Cleveland is a small market and an ugly city too but it attract good players.

 

[8]

For me this story that good players dislike to move to SLC is a an urban legend.

Everyone dislikes moving.

Playing for the Jazz makes you less visible to everyone except Jazz fans. Few good players want to be invisible.

 

[Shocker00]

Ariza at 12 mil a year > Hayward at 16 mil a year

I agree!
Ariza better defensively, fg% 3pt%, rebounds, 8m

Even if we had to pay 10m-12m but nobody knows for sure if we would have to pay more. Lot of people around hear assume things to accommodate for the Jazz mistakes. I agree that a lot of free agents prefer to go to winning teams and to big markets, but there is also a large group of players that don't like all the attention they get and would prefer a smaller city. You never know unless you try.....