Jazz Offseason Plan

[Handlogten's Heros]

Cam Payne is pretty awesome... I wonder how much money he gets this offseason. I'm guessing he's a full MLE guy. If Mike bails it'd sure be nice to have the MLE available to help plug up some holes. We could drop some salary but he might still be out of our price range. Sometimes these guys that have a huge year and look like they have turned a corner regress but I think he only goes up from here. Wouldn't be surprised to see him get more than MLE.

 

[LoPo]

When in doubt draft a wing... sign a wing... trade for a wing... You can play 3x-4x as many wings as you can centers.

Exactly. I'm always going to defer to wings over anything else. It's been a wing driven league since MJ and Pippen. Sure bigs have played a part, but usually they are surrounded by really good wing players.

 

[Handlogten's Heros]

Exactly. I'm always going to defer to wings over anything else. It's been a wing driven league since MJ and Pippen. Sure bigs have played a part, but usually they are surrounded by really good wing players.

Even PGs you can play 2 of them... so there is twice as much opportunity to see the court. If you draft guys that don't see the court they do not develop and their trade value tanks. I get that late first round is a crap shoot but you have to give yourself a chance to hit a potential double or triple. Drafting backup centers is hoping the lay a bunt down to advance the runner.

 

[SoberasHotRod]

Even PGs you can play 2 of them... so there is twice as much opportunity to see the court. If you draft guys that don't see the court they do not develop and their trade value tanks. I get that late first round is a crap shoot but you have to give yourself a chance to hit a potential double or triple. Drafting backup centers is hoping the lay a bunt down to advance the runner.

But Dok was like the 2nd best player in the draft, so you can't pass that up.

 

[infection]

Even PGs you can play 2 of them... so there is twice as much opportunity to see the court. If you draft guys that don't see the court they do not develop and their trade value tanks. I get that late first round is a crap shoot but you have to give yourself a chance to hit a potential double or triple. Drafting backup centers is hoping the lay a bunt down to advance the runner.

There’s nobody on base.

 

[Handlogten's Heros]

Udoka played the least amount of minutes of any first round pick that came to the league this year. He doesn't project to get any minutes next year unless there is an injury. I think if you keep Favs you have to consider alternating them to get Udoka minutes... we won't though.

So we will be two year in with very little idea of what we have. Does he finally get minutes in Year 3 or is Year 4 essentially his "rookie" year. Just a miserable way to waste an asset.

 

[Handlogten's Heros]

But Dok was like the 2nd best player in the draft, so you can't pass that up.

Not sure if you are serious... if you are and the front office really believes that then guess what? You don't spend the money on Favors. At least not on a multi year deal... one year deal only.

 

[SoberasHotRod]

Not sure if you are serious... if you are and the front office really believes that then guess what? You don't spend the money on Favors. At least not on a multi year deal... one year deal only.

I was joking, but pretty sure there was a quote from the front office that they had Dok graded out as the second best prospect in the draft. I agree that it was crazy to both draft Azubuike and sign Favors long term.

 

[Handlogten's Heros]

I was joking, but pretty sure there was a quote from the front office that they had Dok graded out as the second best prospect in the draft. I agree that it was crazy to both draft Azubuike and sign Favors long term.

I figured... the point still stands... if the front office honestly believes that then you trust the kid to play backup minutes as a rookie. Bring in a veteran minimum backup just in case Udoh, Birch, Len. If you are going to have weird convictions at least trust them.

Get Bazemore for $5m on a one or two year deal. Avoid the tax and be flexible next year. Or you get Green at 3/30M if you feel you have to give the full boat. And have Udoka as a fall back if small ball doesn’t work. It was clear there was never gonna be a situation where they played the guy.

 

[jom2003]

The 2nd we used to trade for Matty *** would help in any number of ways, including but not limited to helping to offload Favors' murderous deal that the Jazz never needed to sign him to.

Anyway, I came on here to ask about the prospect of signing Richaun Holmes with the full MLE. Seems mobile and skilled enough to do better than Gobert in a 5-out defense and that's what killed us. But we can't even dream of something like that with Favors on the books. Maybe we can just dump him on the Kings?

Moves like the favs signing and Matty Ice trade is what get you into that top 3 spot for executive of the year. GMs around the league would definitely wanna see more of that and probably sign petitions to keep DL around.

 

[Handlogten's Heros]

The other thing you get by splitting the MLE in two is it’s easier to match contracts in a trade if you need to. Sterling Brown and Bazemore for 3M and 5M and Quin has some options... if it ain’t working and a guy like Tucker becomes available you might be able to nab him.

There were options... abundant options.

 

[LoPo]

The other thing you get by splitting the MLE in two is it’s easier to match contracts in a trade if you need to. Sterling Brown and Bazemore for 3M and 5M and Quin has some options... if it ain’t working and a guy like Tucker becomes available you might be able to nab him.

There were options... abundant options.

I agree with you, but one thing I have to do is move on. Maybe it's my personal past or whatever, but I always look to the future instead of getting mired in the past or present. We F'd up with the Conley deal. We F'd up a lot of things in recent years. I can't stay in the land of what-ifs for too long.

I know we can continue to be a force for the regular season AND become a force for the postseason. It will just take some very intentional moves maximizing our assets to address our need areas (youth, wing defense, stretch 5 option).