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I did notice via Royce's IG story that Mike is still in Utah and was up golfing today with Royce, Georges and one of our training staff coaches today and the past few days. So I'd say if the price is right Mike is fine staying here, it's not as though he jumped on a private jet and left Utah the next day so he must not mind being here. (We all know the one guy who hopped on a private jet and got outta here ASAP after the season ended, but we won't bother with that here)

As I've said I'm not comfortable with some huge contract with Mike due to his age, size, and injury issues but you almost have to bring him back so you don't lose him for nothing or sign and trade him. Smith did save like $34 million on Donovan's All NBA super max because he didn't make All NBA so he does have money to spend he may not have expected necessarily.
 
oneye said:
I did notice via Royce's IG story that Mike is still in Utah and was up golfing today with Royce, Georges and one of our training staff coaches today and the past few days. So I'd say if the price is right Mike is fine staying here, it's not as though he jumped on a private jet and left Utah the next day so he must not mind being here. (We all know the one guy who hopped on a private jet and got outta here ASAP after the season ended, but we won't bother with that here)

As I've said I'm not comfortable with some huge contract with Mike due to his age, size, and injury issues but you almost have to bring him back so you don't lose him for nothing or sign and trade him. Smith did save like $34 million on Donovan's All NBA super max because he didn't make All NBA so he does have money to spend he may not have expected necessarily.
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Did Mike skip the last 4 holes due to an injury?
 
I definitely would be interested in D Wright and Kuzma. Utah roots, affordable, young, athletic, and both have shown they can play defense.

I know defense was a knock against Kuzma earlier in his career, but his defensive analytics from this last season was pretty good. We just need to convince him to get a new hairdo.
 
We had multiple opportunities to get Delon Weight in the past two years. A guy like him could at least do somewhat of a modest job filling in for Conley when he's recovering his hamstring.
 
This rumor idea has the Lakers using Kuzma, Harrell and #22 to get Brogdon:

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That's two of our potential targets going elsewhere. If the Lakers were off the table, I wonder where Conley looks to next.
 
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This rumor idea has the Lakers using Kuzma, Harrell and #22 to get Brogdon:

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That's two of our potential targets going elsewhere. If the Lakers were off the table, I wonder where Conley looks to next.
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I mean this rumors are not substantiated... I don’t even know that Mike wants to go to the Lakers. I’m guessing our first choice would be to retain Conley. I’m guessing we are still high on his list. I wonder if Indiana wants to do a straight swap... if Mike wanted to go home that makes some sense.

I have my doubts on Brogdon but he’s a good substitute if Mike wants out.
 
Handlogten's Heros said:
I mean this rumors are not substantiated... I don’t even know that Mike wants to go to the Lakers. I’m guessing our first choice would be to retain Conley. I’m guessing we are still high on his list. I wonder if Indiana wants to do a straight swap... if Mike wanted to go home that makes some sense.

I have my doubts on Brogdon but he’s a good substitute if Mike wants out.
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I know these are rumors, but this isn't the good ole days when we heard it first when it happens. Nowadays, a thousand ideas will be thrown out there and one will stick. I will say, this trade does make sense for the Lakers.

It also makes sense for Indiana to trade Brogdon. There are a lot of reports that Brogdon isn't well liked, and that Indiana likes the idea of playing LaVert as the primary ball handler.

The last part doesn't make sense - Indiana should be able to get more for Brogdon than Kuzma, Harrell and #22. We would consider that for Conley because he's older and could leave us for nothing. Indiana has no reason to sell low on Brogdon. Somebody would pay more than that.
 
LoPo said:
I know these are rumors, but this isn't the good ole days when we heard it first when it happens. Nowadays, a thousand ideas will be thrown out there and one will stick. I will say, this trade does make sense for the Lakers.

It also makes sense for Indiana to trade Brogdon. There are a lot of reports that Brogdon isn't well liked, and that Indiana likes the idea of playing LaVert as the primary ball handler.

The last part doesn't make sense - Indiana should be able to get more for Brogdon than Kuzma, Harrell and #22. We would consider that for Conley because he's older and could leave us for nothing. Indiana has no reason to sell low on Brogdon. Somebody would pay more than that.
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I think the foot concerns on Brodgon are real and his shelf life is limited. I also think he's not been the easiest guy in the world to deal with. I think based on his production you are right that someone should pay more.

I think for the Conley Brogdon swap it would be because Malcom isn't getting along and they want to shake it up. They should not make Caris a point guard... I don't think that is what they want to do.

I think Kuzma is very eye of the beholder... prolly some that think he's super ordinary and he may have a few fans out there in league front offices.
 
Handlogten's Heros said:
I think the foot concerns on Brodgon are real and his shelf life is limited. I also think he's not been the easiest guy in the world to deal with. I think based on his production you are right that someone should pay more.

I think for the Conley Brogdon swap it would be because Malcom isn't getting along and they want to shake it up. They should not make Caris a point guard... I don't think that is what they want to do.

I think Kuzma is very eye of the beholder... prolly some that think he's super ordinary and he may have a few fans out there in league front offices.
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I don't know what to think of Brogdon, but I doubt we have any shot to get him unless for some reason Indiana is desperate to get Bojan back.

As for Kuzma, I think it's a great buy low situation. What do we really have to lose? The kid is only 25, can shoot the 3, is a good rebounder, and is 6'10". Hell, trade Favors for Kuzma and let's play Kuzma as a small ball center.

Most importantly, I think getting Kuzma appeases Don. I think they would get along. I think Kuzma would be happy with the Jazz. And Lord knows we need more youth and potential on this dang team.
 
Someone run the math for me and tell me what the maximum salary that Conley could get paid in a S&T to the Lakers if we sent Conley and Favors for Kuzma and Harrell.

It feels like this could/should be a thing. I think Harrell is different than Favors as a backup 5 in some really important ways (mostly that he's athletic/mobile). Both players would seem to have trade value if we wanted to re-route them. Could probably dump Harrell into somebody's cap-space and receive an asset on top of it (if he opts in [this is another variable that would need resolution]).

Getting something out of Conley's bird rights (either re-signing him or trading him) and trading Favors are the two most important things this offseason.
 
NUMBERICA said:
Someone run the math for me and tell me what the maximum salary that Conley could get paid in a S&T to the Lakers if we sent Conley and Favors for Kuzma and Harrell.

It feels like this could/should be a thing. I think Harrell is different than Favors as a backup 5 in some really important ways (mostly that he's athletic/mobile). Both players would seem to have trade value if we wanted to re-route them. Could probably dump Harrell into somebody's cap-space and receive an asset on top of it (if he opts in [this is another variable that would need resolution]).

Getting something out of Conley's bird rights (either re-signing him or trading him) and trading Favors are the two most important things this offseason.
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Harrell has issues in the playoffs because he’s a terrible defender... that said we allowed 6 pts per possession with Rudy off the floor in the playoffs and Trez is a dynamite roll man. Would be a good offensive bench big. He’s also pretty active on the offensive glass. Maybe a buy low candidate.

I don’t do sign and trade math though... prolly like 13-14M a year for Mike for a few years.
 
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