Then you're right. This would be the time to pivot, which is what makes the most sense to me; Let Ingles age out, get what you can for Conley and Bojan, and consider cashing in on Gobert if there's a deal out there that makes sense.
Quin certainly has his players he's comfortable with, doesn't he?
It’s kind of a tough article to read... especially for those of us that see the obvious mistakes... state the mistakes they are making and then get called armchair GMs by the “lolz guis”.
From what Tony said on radio the past few weeks, they're probably going to give it one last go with what the roster generally looks like. Then next offseason if they lose in round 1 or 2, there's going to be a massive overhaul, likely trying to pivot to try and keep Donovan. I'm just not sure there's enough time then. Then you have basically 1 and a half seasons to make that pivot before Donovan is likely up for a super-max. I think if they flame out in round 1 or 2 next season, Rudy is for sure on the trade block. Another reason I don't think they're building as if he's for sure leaving is, they are currently considering people for the front office such as a CAA employee for a front office role and whatnot. A lot of the hires coming will be made with Donovan in mind by all reports, so it doesn't feel like they've subsided to just lose him, but they really need to start building a team that can compete now and in a few years and developing our young talent, including guys like Hughes during the season even if Quin isn't totally comfortable with it.
I am operating under the assumption we get two more good Donovan seasons and then when he is up for extension he balks... and we end up trading him.
I think the Clips offer him the same amount and he stays. Unless he hates them for some reason... it seems like he was happy there cuz he played his *** off.
We always make the change we need to... just a season or two too late... so this would make sense.
It kind of sucks but is this the general feeling of most at this point? I'm not sure this is the front office or ownerships approach, I really do think they'd like him here much longer than that, but the conversation of what to do with the roster changes a lot if the feeling is he's leaving in 2 years regardless.
Well the other problem with waiting a year is that Conley would be another year older (and likely another year of missing playoff games since it seems pretty clear his hamstring condition is degenerative) which might make his contract negative-value, Bojan would be an expiring, and again, another year to add and develop talent would be lost. I hope they understand that they're gambling the longer they wait (again, assuming they really think they have a chance at retaining Donovan).
I think Rudy ends up on the block before season ends. Not in a we need to trade him mode, but almost a Melo Deron situation with him and Simmons maybe. We see what they uncover in their effort to trade him and maybe see something that works for us. Nothing good pops up and we will wait and see what happens. If he was trade eligible I think we’d be looking.
I don’t think it’s even a front office blame thing... I think it’s just an NBA problem. Unless the stars are gathering in your market then they are likely not staying here longer than you have team control. The situation here has to be so good that it’s a no brainer... even then sometimes it doesn’t work out.
If there's a term for when a journalist's single priority is to make sure they don't embarrass the people they are covering because those people are their sources, Tony Jones would be the picture in the wikipedia page. The dude is a shill of the highest order.
I think they're currently playing with the fire of "do we dare take a slight step back and Donovan possibly asks for a trade next offseason" and "staying good while trying to totally pivot at some point to try and convince him to stay". It's a difficult situation, and the real problem is, we were too good too soon with Donovan, and its created a situation where we may be stuck in the same spot, or start declining right as you need to convince him to stay. So long as Donovan (and Rudy for the most part) are on the roster the Jazz are going to be a solid team, but solid isn't going to be good enough.
The other option is the go all the way the **** in. This is the dangerous option but it’s the option that gets us the youth and players we need...
The good news is maybe we offer him more, so he comes here and suddenly becomes the Charlotte version because it's not as fun for an NBA player to live in Utah than to live in LA.
It just sucks, because if you knew he would stay for a bit longer and give you like a 4-5 year window, I think they could successfully pivot and break through. But the 2-3 year window is just not enough given the market. It's why Dame or Giannis is exactly the type of star you have to have to make a lot of the moves necessary. Now Portland didn't do enough for Dame, and the Bucks are finally reaping the benefits of going all in. If you were the front office and knew Donovan would be a bit patient you could do what's necessary to give him a roster that fits him better and probably break through and he's plenty a good enough number 1 you would have a legitimate chance, I'm just not sure that's the feeling around the organization or if they feel confident enough in Donovan's commitment to the organization to just put every asset you have out there and go all in on a pivot around him. I think they want to keep him pretty bad, but I don't think Donovan's given any real indication he's "loyal".
For any of the clowns in the FO that trawl this board for ideas, plz try this one.
