What's new
By:

Jazz Offseason Plan

infection said:
Two summer mini camp prospects to be named later. I mean, just look at how often they hit on minicamp guys.
Click to expand...
We will trade you DL... who is getting paid and not doing anything... which I believe is what they call in the biz "consulting".
 
LoPo said:
Ntilikina is a lock down perimeter defender. Sure his offense is bad, but he's been in NY for his 4 pro years where the only thing consistent has been inconsistency.

I think Rudy and Don could mold him like they have Royce. Royce could barely dribble starting out.
Click to expand...
I wouldn't mind him as a minimum flier guy, but he likely has an opportunity to take a minimum somewhere they can actually play him a little. If he runs out of options then go ahead. I'd give him Miye's spot in the rotation.

I think Frank needs to get over being a pg if he wants to be successful and just be a 3-D wing who can dribble a little or attack a close out here and there. I agree NY is not the place for a development guy the last few years. He should be looking for a situation like Houston, OKC, Orlando where he can get some burn and explore the space a bit.
 
Handlogten's Heros said:
I wouldn't mind him as a minimum flier guy, but he likely has an opportunity to take a minimum somewhere they can actually play him a little. If he runs out of options then go ahead. I'd give him Miye's spot in the rotation.

I think Frank needs to get over being a pg if he wants to be successful and just be a 3-D wing who can dribble a little or attack a close out here and there. I agree NY is not the place for a development guy the last few years. He should be looking for a situation like Houston, OKC, Orlando where he can get some burn and explore the space a bit.
Click to expand...
I agree with this 100%. I think he if cares about his development and ability to make it long term in this league, he should come to Utah on a minimum deal to be surrounded by people who support him.

And yes, no need to try to make him a PG. Just let him be a defensive specialist and hopefully develop a 35% 3pt shot.
 
LoPo said:
Ntilikina is a lock down perimeter defender. Sure his offense is bad, but he's been in NY for his 4 pro years where the only thing consistent has been inconsistency.

I think Rudy and Don could mold him like they have Royce. Royce could barely dribble starting out.
Click to expand...
It says a lot that the year they got good he got his minutes cut drastically while playing for a defensive minded coach.
 
Saint Cy of JFC said:
It says a lot that the year they got good he got his minutes cut drastically while playing for a defensive minded coach.
Click to expand...
Good point.

Also a lot of guards trying to get playing time in that backcourt for a coach who isn't known for development. Rose, Burks, Quickley, Payton, RJ Barrett, Rivers for 21 games. That's 6 or 7 guys playing the PG or SG position before you even consider Ntilikina.

For us, we have Don, Conley, JC and who else going for SG or PG minutes plus Ingles who kind of plays like a PG in certain lineups. We hoped Shaq would be that guy, but he just didn't mesh. I think Frank could.

It's buy low idea. We really don't have much to lose.
 
Ntlikina is another Oni type. He has all the physical tools, his shot looks good enough, you watch his good plays and it seems like he has talent, but at the end of the day he just can't put anything together on the court. I'm not against signing him, but I dont really care either. Players like him are a dime a dozen.
 
Saint Cy of JFC said:
Ntlikina is another Oni type. He has all the physical tools, his shot looks good enough, you watch his good plays and it seems like he has talent, but at the end of the day he just can't put anything together on the court. I'm not against signing him, but I dont really care either. Players like him are a dime a dozen.
Click to expand...
You guys know the statistical breakdowns better than me, and I found this article interesting as the NY media debated NY playing Frank against Trae Young.
hoopshabit.com

Knicks: How Frank Ntilikina will be crucial to success

The New York Knicks will need to slow Trae Young down in the playoffs, so they should insert Frank Ntilikina into the starting lineup.
hoopshabit.com hoopshabit.com

When considering overall defensive capabilities, Ntilikina stands out among the bunch. Since draft day, the 6’4″ guard has been considered a great defender. His 7’1″ wingspan adds to his ability to disrupt passing lanes.

But considering defensive box plus-minus and defensive win shares, Ntilikina, again, sticks out. In terms of the former, Ntilikina has a 2.2 defensive box plus-minus, which is higher than Rose (0.5), Payton (-0.6) and Immanuel Quickley (-0.9).
...
So, in terms of defense, Ntilikina is the best option, especially in a series in which slowing down Young should be the defensive priority. If Ntilikina is doing this, the Knicks should easily win the series.

Give Ntilikina a shot, the numbers prove he deserves it.

We all know now that Frank did not play against Atlanta, and Trae torched NY eliminating them from the playoffs.
 
I prefer Frank to Oni. I think he's proven that he's actually a good defender and can do that at a high level. Whenever I saw Oni play I thought his defense was overrated. He takes really bad angles and doesn't have the greatest technique. Oni is way too reliant on his physical ability.
 
You must log in or register to reply here.

Share this page
Back
Top