Dunn is averaging 12.6 PPG, 4.9 RPG, 4.3 APG, 1.9 SPG on 54/41/78 shooting splits in 23.3 MPG through 7 games with us so far. We should definitely sign him to a multi-year deal after this second 10-day is up. I love what I have seen from him.
Jazz Sign Kris Dunn for ROS + 1-Year
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This is my thread, but to be honest I would have never gotten around to making it. I’d normally backup my argument but I’ll just go ahead and make the statement that we get him on a long-term deal and he becomes our “almost Marcus Smart.”
homeytennis
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The Wizards look like the dumbest team in the NBA as he was playing for their GLeague team and Naw not interested.
Bawse Dawg
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Sounds good to me. I assume his defense has been above average too, since that’s been his calling card.
If he’s gonna steal wins for us then we need to get long term value.
If he’s gonna steal wins for us then we need to get long term value.
Tremendous Upside
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No freaking way.
Dunn has a maddeningly loose handle, is an undisciplined ball hawk of a defender and plays a super inefficient brand of basketball.
He needs the whole interior for his extended one-on-one dribbling escapades, which pushes Kessler out of rebounding position and makes Lauri stand around on the perimeter to space the floor. When it sometimes works, he looks like MJ... but most of the times it won't, and he kills the whole offense.
Don't be fooled. Don't think you're smarter than the entire league. There's a reason why Dunn was a #5 pick but fell out of the league. He's a gigantic bust, one of the worst of the last 20 years.
Realistically, he's a 9th man on a good team. If you just use him for 5 to 10 minutes per game to get a different look, I'm fine with him. But as an overdribbling PG who mainly looks for his own shot? GTFO.
Dunn has a maddeningly loose handle, is an undisciplined ball hawk of a defender and plays a super inefficient brand of basketball.
He needs the whole interior for his extended one-on-one dribbling escapades, which pushes Kessler out of rebounding position and makes Lauri stand around on the perimeter to space the floor. When it sometimes works, he looks like MJ... but most of the times it won't, and he kills the whole offense.
Don't be fooled. Don't think you're smarter than the entire league. There's a reason why Dunn was a #5 pick but fell out of the league. He's a gigantic bust, one of the worst of the last 20 years.
Realistically, he's a 9th man on a good team. If you just use him for 5 to 10 minutes per game to get a different look, I'm fine with him. But as an overdribbling PG who mainly looks for his own shot? GTFO.
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20 mpg defensive specialist off the bench. We needed that the past three years. We’ll need it shortly, because we’re arriving ahead of schedule, so lock him up.
Tremendous Upside
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He's not a defensive specialist. Defensive specialists are very good at defense.
Dunn is a ballhawk who won't stay between his man and the basket. That's very different. His teammates pay for his risk-taking.
I'd be cool with rest of the year + nom guaranteed for next year with an end of camp cut date
TheStormofWar
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I wouldn't be adverse to this. Give him a chance to breath, get some more time with the team and see if Hardy can get him to settle a bit on defense. He's also got a useful 3 point shot. Worst case, he can be used to help match salary with a non-guaranteed deal. If dude's amenable it, then sure, why not?
Handlogten's Heros
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Why would we sign this guy to a minimum deal when we could sign Trent Forrest to a minimum and see if he could develop into a player similar to but not as good as Dunn? Don’t take shortcuts!
Did he bang your mom or something because you have an irrational hatred of him?
This is the way. Then, not only do you have a developed Trent Forrest, but you get the glory of being the franchise that developed Trent Forrest. That’s priceless. Anywhere he goes in the league, anything he does… guess what? You developed that.
Tremendous Upside
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Yes and said Vando wasn’t a good rebounder lol.
Lessee, Dunn is averaging 12/4/5/2 steals with 1.4 TO in 23 MPG on 54/41/78 shooting splits at 60% EFG, with TS% at .611, 8th on the team. That is pretty damn efficient tbpfhwymf.
In advanced, he is a BPM of +4.6, with a +0.8 OBPM and +3.8 DBPM. This BPM actually tops the entire team with Lauri right behind him at +3.9. THT is currently at a -1.8 overall, with -1.9 OBPM and 0.0 DBPM. He is 3rd on the team for WS/48, at .185, ahead of Lauri at .183 and just behind Kessler at .197. He is 2nd in AST% at 28.5 behind only Conley who left the team at a 34.3 AST%. He is even ahead of Olynyk in TRB% at 11.4 where Kelly is at 10.7. The 6'3" guard is a better overall rebounder than one of our 7-footers. If you just take DRB% he is directly behind Lauri, at 19.2 where Lauri is at 20.7. On top of this his current PER is 20.1, well into the solid contributor level of production.
And according to the RAPTOR WAR rating, Dunn is our 7th best player. This all sounds like exactly what you want from a play-maker off the bench. Sign him for a few years, see where this goes.
In advanced, he is a BPM of +4.6, with a +0.8 OBPM and +3.8 DBPM. This BPM actually tops the entire team with Lauri right behind him at +3.9. THT is currently at a -1.8 overall, with -1.9 OBPM and 0.0 DBPM. He is 3rd on the team for WS/48, at .185, ahead of Lauri at .183 and just behind Kessler at .197. He is 2nd in AST% at 28.5 behind only Conley who left the team at a 34.3 AST%. He is even ahead of Olynyk in TRB% at 11.4 where Kelly is at 10.7. The 6'3" guard is a better overall rebounder than one of our 7-footers. If you just take DRB% he is directly behind Lauri, at 19.2 where Lauri is at 20.7. On top of this his current PER is 20.1, well into the solid contributor level of production.
And according to the RAPTOR WAR rating, Dunn is our 7th best player. This all sounds like exactly what you want from a play-maker off the bench. Sign him for a few years, see where this goes.
homeytennis
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Dunn is what we were all hoping Royce might become.
On defense, we acted like Royce was what Dunn is, though more people saw the light toward the end. He could stay in front of his shadow. I put most of the blame on Quin. He wasn’t always that bad.