Jazz trade Devin Harris to Atlanta for Marvin Williams (merged)

[Bodhi]

Marvin Williams> 2013 free agency.

Math>Bluesrocker

 

[Fishsticks]

Why does everyone keep throwing around we got a 2nd overall pick?. So ****ing what? Does he have the value of a number 2 pick?

Well its a fact.

 

[Dr. Jones]

Why does everyone keep throwing around we got a 2nd overall pick?. So ****ing what? Does he have the value of a number 2 pick?

Because everyone hates you.

 

[BluesRocker]

Didn't you just start a thread saying how bad Marvin Williams is?!?!

I didnt say how bad he is. What Im saying is we might not like him. Their fans dont. Why will we?

 

[Fishsticks]

Any player or FO comments on this deal yet?

 

[spycam1]

Well its a fact.

A worthless one, though.

I'm excited about the trade, but the fact that he was a #2 pick has nothing to do with that.

 

[vslice02]

Why does everyone keep throwing around we got a 2nd overall pick?. So ****ing what? Does he have the value of a number 2 pick?

Exactly. Marvin was drafted 2nd overall 7 years ago. If you redrafted the 2005 draft, would Marvin go #2 again? Does Manu Ginobili have the trade value of a 57th pick? Utah acquired him for what he is: a serviceable starter with a no-so-great contract who fit a position of need - not a #2 overall pick. His draft position means nothing.

 

[BluesRocker]

LMAO.

I said Marvin> 2013 free agency as a joke.

Looks guys, I dont care. I dont hate the trade. Could be great. Might not be either.

At least all we gave up is garbage.

 

[Saint Cy of JFC]

I would think they had more interest in Jefferson than in Harris...
dunno.

I heard they are trying to attract Dwight because of his hometown ties and Josh Smith.

 

[framer]

All your Williams are belong to us!

 

[Saint Cy of JFC]

I was just saying we have a lot of talent. Talent doesn't always equal success or productivity. The complaint about Dwill's Utah is that we had a bunch of over-achieving under-talented players. Now we don't have that excuse.

 

[Stifle Tower]

Perimeter defense and shooting upgraded, essentially for Harris as the only price paid. Still have Jefferson and GS pick to play with. With Hibbert getting Max, Jefferson has some value, especially as an expiring. I wonder if The Utah-ATL trade phone call started with ATL looking at Al's expiring, and moved on to what we ended up with. I have to believe the Atlanta deal was discussed before we picked up Williams #1.

Yes. And undoubtedly why KOC didn't demand a draft pick and then walk away when a 2nd-rounder didn't come our way. I will always disagree with those who say each trade has to be looked at separately and you have to maximize each or not do a deal. WE desperately needed a solid wing, preferably a bigger SF who could stretch the defense. And that's exactly what we got. A rotation of Williams, Hayward and Burks, with Gordon splitting his time between the 2 and 3. And Carroll getting some PT in case of injuries or foul trouble. No CJ. No Bell. Wing rotation DONE!

And give my thanks to Howard for his efforts last season. He was a true professional and gave all he had and did it with a terrific attitude. Now he's free to sign with Dallas and not have to feel guilty deserting the team which gave him a new lease on his basketball life.