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Jazzfanz BIG BOARD rankings ROUND 7

If all of these players were available who would you want The Jazz to pick?

  • Al-Farouq Aminu

    Votes: 13 25.0%

  • Cole Aldrich

    Votes: 9 17.3%

  • Ed Davis

    Votes: 3 5.8%

  • Ekpe Udoh

    Votes: 9 17.3%

  • Gordon Honzward

    Votes: 1 1.9%

  • Hassan Whiteside

    Votes: 5 9.6%

  • Luke Babbit

    Votes: 2 3.8%

  • Patrick Patterson

    Votes: 1 1.9%

  • Paul George

    Votes: 4 7.7%

  • Xavier Henry

    Votes: 5 9.6%
  • Total voters
    52
Isn't Charlie Babbitt the guy who the scouts are asking, "Who will he be be able to guard in the NBA?" That's never a good question you want to hear about a prospect and if my memory is correct on that, I want nothing to do with him.

Then, again, that mother can count cards which could bring in beaucoup bucks to Greggy boy and spark him to spend like L.A. and Co.

I'm warming up to Henry.
 
KrazeeEyezKilla said:
Isn't Charlie Babbitt the guy who the scouts are asking, "Who will he be be able to guard in the NBA?" That's never a good question you want to hear about a prospect and if my memory is correct on that, I want nothing to do with him.
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In terms of guarding guys, what is the difference between him and any other player in the draft?
 
As a North Carolina fan I have seen Davis quite a bit. True he needs to bulk up, but he has the kind of length and athleticism we have been missing up front and can play both the 4 and 5. The problem is that he is probably about 2 years away from really being good. Considering DWill's contract situation we may play it safe and go with someone who can contribute more quickly, but I think Davis will be really good in a couple of years.
 
seattlejazzfan said:
In terms of guarding guys, what is the difference between him and any other player in the draft?
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He's not as good at it. Lacks lateral quickness to guard a 3 and lacks strength to guard a 4. He's the very definition of a tweener.
 
calijazz said:
He's not as good at it. Lacks lateral quickness to guard a 3 and lacks strength to guard a 4. He's the very definition of a tweener.
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I think this is more true of Honzward than it is of Babbit, but it's close

Hayward:

6'8" tall
8'7" standing reach
11.73 seconds lane agility drill
3.22 seconds 3/4 court sprint
34.5" max vertical leap
10 bench presses

oh and 29.4% 3PFG%

Babbitt:

6' 8.75" tall (yes, that is literally how it is recorded)
8' 8.5" standing reach
10.98 second lane agility drill
3.4 seconds 3/4 court sprint
37.5" max vertical leap
15 bench presses (and yes, I know this has little correlation with success in the NBA)

oh and 41.6% 3PFG%

Babbitt looks better physically in literally every metric imaginable except for a flat-out up-down sprint. He's bigger, stronger, more agile (i.e. more lateral quickness), and jumps higher. He's also a lot better shooter. He's even younger by a few months.

When you think about him as being a better physical specimen and probably having better skills based upon their body of work outside of one five game stretch it seems like a no brainer.
 
Sirkickyass said:
I think this is more true of Honzward than it is of Babbit, but it's close

Hayward:

6'8" tall
8'7" standing reach
11.73 seconds lane agility drill
3.22 seconds 3/4 court sprint
34.5" max vertical leap
10 bench presses

oh and 29.4% 3PFG%

Babbitt:

6' 8.75" tall (yes, that is literally how it is recorded)
8' 8.5" standing reach
10.98 second lane agility drill
3.4 seconds 3/4 court sprint
37.5" max vertical leap
15 bench presses (and yes, I know this has little correlation with success in the NBA)

oh and 41.6% 3PFG%

Babbitt looks better physically in literally every metric imaginable except for a flat-out up-down sprint. He's bigger, stronger, more agile (i.e. more lateral quickness), and jumps higher. He's also a lot better shooter. He's even younger by a few months.

When you think about him as being a better physical specimen and probably having better skills based upon their body of work outside of one five game stretch it seems like a no brainer.
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I don't debate that. I actually probably like Babbitt more than Hayward (although that's not saying so much). I was just answering SJF's question.
 
calijazz said:
I don't debate that. I actually probably like Babbitt more than Hayward (although that's not saying so much). I was just answering SJF's question.
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But for his size (heck, even against smaller guys) he's just as quick laterally as anybody else. Hayward is just one example - despite being a full inch taller than Hayward, he's almost an entire second (an eternity) faster in the lane agility. There is nothing that shows he lacks lateral quickness (for a 3) or strength (for a 4) in comparison with his peers in the draft.
 
All of you doubting Hayward's ability to transition into the NBA and his ability to defend are clueless. Babbitt > Hayward? Just plain dumb. Babbitt is soft, Hayward is as tough as they come. Also, I believe that Hayward's down shooting year can be attributed to him having to create a lot of those looks of the dribble and just losing confidence. Hell, even Ray Allen has had down shooting years. Dude has a sweet stroke, so I have no doubts that he will drain catch and shoot 3's in the future.
 
Allen's lowest 3pt% was 35.6 in the lockout year.

Never got below 40% in college.

Based on that, Hayward's worst 3pt% in the pros will be 5 points lower than his worst in college, so 23% or so?
 
I think the Babbit vs. Hayward debate is moot. I think if the Jazz go for a wing, they'll take Paul George if they can and Xavier Henry if they can't. Babbit might be in play, but I'd be surprised if Hayward is really in the picture.
 
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