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candrew said:
Anyone (left or right) who advances the notion that people are "bad" or "evil" based purely on their political ideologies is a counterproductive hack - it's that simple.
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Is that something he's been doing?
 
candrew said:
However, up to this point, Shapiro has largely been a partisan hack. Anyone (left or right) who advances the notion that people are "bad" or "evil" based purely on their political ideologies is a counterproductive hack - it's that simple.
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I agree with this. Shapiro makes me roll my eyes a lot. I do like a lot of what he says though and I get a kick out of people's reactions to him.

I like how Thriller tries and makes Shapiro look dumb and morally inferior and yet he's the first guy to brag about being an educator and promotes suffering to conservatives. My favorite thing though is how Thriller uses Shapiro's lines like he coined them. Lol
 
Zombie said:
Oh hell yes. Particularly when it comes to criticism of Israel. He regularly characterized Obama as an antisemite throughout his presidency.
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Unpossible. Everything ever said about Obama was positive even though he was a super evil scumbag.

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One Brow said:
Rich people getting their kids into Ivy League schools is commonplace and ordinary. Trump went to Harvard, GWB to Yale.
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Sure. Rich people's kids have an advantage getting into Ivy League schools. But it's certainly no walk in the park no matter how hard you guys try and make it seem that way.

It's rather douchey to judge people based on their family's success too.

Going back to my point, Shapiro isn't pretend smart. He's smart. I guarantee he'd tested (or would test) higher than you on the ACT, LSAT, IQ, SAT, or any other intelligence test. You guys sound intimidated or jealous. 176, yo.

Oh, let's not act like Shapiro grew up in the same house as Trump. Lol
 
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Eminence said:
Scoring well on a test is a pretty mediocre measure of intelligence. Take it from a dumbass who can ace them all with a couple days study time.
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I agree with this for the most part. It can be an indicator of intelligence, but is by no means the only way. Scoring 176 on the LSAT is not achieved by someone who's only pretend smart who talks fast.

I'll dumb down my point and make it more simple.

People: Ben Shapiro is fake smart and dumb.

Reality: He's smarter and more successful than you. 100%

People: *Roll their eyes* He's so dumb.


I don't think Shapiro is the bar for intellectuals, but it's laughable when people call him dumb.
 
Archie Moses said:
I agree with this for the most part. It can be an indicator of intelligence, but is by no means the only way. Scoring 176 on the LSAT is not achieved by someone who's only pretend smart who talks fast.

I'll dumb down my point and make it more simple.

People: Ben Shapiro is fake smart and dumb.

Reality: He's smarter and more successful than you. 100%

People: *Roll their eyes* He's so dumb.


I don't think Shapiro is the bar for intellectuals, but it's laughable when people call him dumb.
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To be clear, I never said Shapiro is dumb. Just that he isn't the brilliant intellectual so many people are convinced he is.

I judge people not on what school they went to or how good at tests they are, but on the strength of their arguments and the conclusions they come to based on how they see the world. Shapiro fails badly on both counts.
 
I try to resist the urge to call people dumb (emotions get the best of me sometimes, but we're mostly pretty average out here y'know?) and most tests really just measure one skill - memory - it's valuable, but it's not the only thing. Useful for trivia night down at the bar though.
 
Zombie said:
To be clear, I never said Shapiro is dumb. Just that he isn't the brilliant intellectual so many people are convinced he is.

I judge people not on what school they went to or how good at tests they are, but on the strength of their arguments and the conclusions they come to based on how they see the world. Shapiro fails badly on both counts.
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I agree with your first sentence. Agsin, I don't think he's the bar for intellectuals, but I do think he's smarter than 99% of people out there. The guy knows a lot of stuff.

I disagree with Shapiro on some of his arguments too. That said, he makes solid arguments more often than he makes poor arguments. I'm sure we're both influenced by biases. You probably see AOC great arguments and conclusions while I may see the ones she makes that aren't so great.

Which political figure do you consider to make strong arguments and conclusions, btw?
 
Archie Moses said:
I agree with your first sentence. Agsin, I don't think he's the bar for intellectuals, but I do think he's smarter than 99% of people out there. The guy knows a lot of stuff.

I disagree with Shapiro on some of his arguments too. That said, he makes solid arguments more often than he makes poor arguments. I'm sure we're both influenced by biases. You probably see AOC great arguments and conclusions while I may see the ones she makes that aren't so great.

Which political figure do you consider to make strong arguments and conclusions, btw?
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I don't think AOC is right about everything either. Of course I find myself agreeing with a lot of what she believes politically.

As for your second question, I think Elizabeth Warren is a good example of someone who is both well educated and good at supporting her positions. As far as political pundits go Ta Nehesi Coates is someone I would consider an intellectual heavyweight.

Natalie Wynn of ContraPoints is another individual who I think is very good at crafting and supporting her positions. In her videos she takes a socratic approach and represents multiple points of views to analyze a particular issue. Rather than seeking to "destroy" the other point of view, she attempts to understand it. I highly recommend her youtube channel.
 
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