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Joe Rogan On Shapiro's Show


Lol.

Watch this and you'll see the difference of intelligence between Shapiro and his counterparts.

This was hard to watch. Gawd damn it.
 
I guarantee he'd tested (or would test) higher than you on the ACT, LSAT, IQ, SAT, or any other intelligence test. You guys sound intimidated or jealous. 176, yo.

Why? It's not like he got a 180 on the LSAT. My understanding is that the test is approximately bell-shaped, 150 mean, 10 s.d. So, you'd still expect 3-4 people out of a thousand to get that score. It's not all that amazing.

I do agree that Shapiro is smart. I think he understands exactly the ways that he misleads, misstates, mischaracterizes, and deceives people. Usually, there is some combination of greed and wishful thinking behind this; smart people are much better at rationalizing their lies than those less smart.
 
Warren is a pretty good current example of consistent and well-stated arguments. I'm not sure I could name a politician I consider an intellectual in my lifetime. For my money Chomsky is still the definitive leftist thinker of our time. George Monbiot is a guy I like too.
 
I don't think AOC is right about everything either. Of course I find myself agreeing with a lot of what she believes politically.

As for your second question, I think Elizabeth Warren is a good example of someone who is both well educated and good at supporting her positions. As far as political pundits go Ta Nehesi Coates is someone I would consider an intellectual heavyweight.

Natalie Wynn of ContraPoints is another individual who I think is very good at crafting and supporting her positions. In her videos she takes a socratic approach and represents multiple points of views to analyze a particular issue. Rather than seeking to "destroy" the other point of view, she attempts to understand it. I highly recommend her youtube channel.
I don't know much about any of them so I'll definitely start paying closer attention.

Thanks
 
So, you'd still expect 3-4 people out of a thousand to get that score. It's not all that amazing.

Wait, are you seriously saying that scoring in the .04% on the LSAT isn't that amazing? Mmmkay. . I must be odd then cause that sounds impressive af to me.



I feel like this is the comment section on Sportscenter's post where the average guy is talking **** and saying whatever feat was posted isn't all that amazing.

There's an intelligence understanding that other people can be intelligent with or without your approval.
 
What do y’all think of Jimmy Dore?
 
I haven't received many responses to my first post and this thread has turned into a bit of a ****-show, but I would encourage you all to listen to the last 3 minutes of the OP video to get where I am coming from.

I enjoy the JRE podcast and was introduced to the 'Sunday Special' of Shapiro when I saw him interviewing Andrew Yang a Democratic nominee ---->

I would like to see more of this in-depth, long-form discussion and less of the garbage we see today.
 
Wait, are you seriously saying that scoring in the .04% on the LSAT isn't that amazing? Mmmkay. . I must be odd then cause that sounds impressive af to me.

Actually, 0.3% - 0.4%, and no, not particularly amazing. Then again, I work every day with people like that (I currently work for WUStl School of Medicine).

There's an intelligence understanding that other people can be intelligent with or without your approval.

While my approval has no effect on the actual intelligence level of Shapiro, I did say, in the same post, that I also thought he was smart. So, I'm not sure what your point it here.
 
I haven't received many responses to my first post and this thread has turned into a bit of a ****-show, but I would encourage you all to listen to the last 3 minutes of the OP video to get where I am coming from.

I enjoy the JRE podcast and was introduced to the 'Sunday Special' of Shapiro when I saw him interviewing Andrew Yang a Democratic nominee ---->

I would like to see more of this in-depth, long-form discussion and less of the garbage we see today.



Right wing media has been very fair to Andrew Yang - either they don't take him seriously or they hope he'll become a third party candidate and take votes away from the democratic candidate (the latter of which he said he's not going to do). Regardless, credit where credit is due - Shapiro does an excellent job here.

I also enjoyed his interview with Sam Harris. In fact I think that's what Shapiro is trying to reinvent himself as - sort of a right leaning, non-secular Sam Harris.
 
Right wing media has been very fair to Andrew Yang - either they don't take him seriously or they hope he'll become a third party candidate and take votes away from the democratic candidate (the latter of which he said he's not going to do). Regardless, credit where credit is due - Shapiro does an excellent job here.

I also enjoyed his interview with Sam Harris. In fact I think that's what Shapiro is trying to reinvent himself as - sort of a right leaning, non-secular Sam Harris.
I’m not sure about that. Both he and Tulsi Gabbard, though they may hold a lot of views that go significantly against any baseline right-wing dogma, they themselves aren’t hyper-partisan and haven’t really engaged in much us-vs.-them energizing of their perceived base. As such, they’ve been more willing to engage in discussion that doesn’t fall back on strong appeal to emotion. I’ve been familiar with both of them through Joe Rogan and held favorable views of them despite not agreeing with a number of their positions. My assumption is that their receptivity among the right probably mirrors a lot of my own thoughts.
 
Also, Yang and Gabbard are outsiders. They’re not going to get any internal support or exposure, so they have to go to media that will speak with them, and are thus willing to go places such as Shapiro. Kamala Harris and Elizabeth Warren would have no use for talking to Shapiro or anyone right wing — their best strategy is energizing base.
 
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