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This was already addressed in post 67 and you have yet to answer my question from post 65. Repeating yourself like a broken record isn’t helpful.
This was already addressed in post 67 and you have yet to answer my question from post 65. Repeating yourself like a broken record isn’t helpful.
The part where you compared seatbelts to putting an experimental drug into ones body that was unconstitutionally mandated? It was a stupid analogy. The government has never killed people with seatbelts.
 


You’re bringing up… Nazis in this thread? Who did I refer to as a Nazi? Was it necessary to bring this up in your post? What purpose does it serve?
Pointing out that you just call people something negative every time they disagree with you. Like I said earlier your name calling this week is “rotten brain”.

Overly emotional fact free garbage. Whether we’re talking Covid, elections, climate change, gun control, women’s rights, etc all too often my friends in the right are unable to engage in debate calmly and rationally. It’s just one emotional outburst of conspiracy and nonsense after another. This is exactly what I predicted back in post 90.
People bring up facts and articles; you then try to sham the person because you can’t respond with facts. Call people anti-vaxers or brain rot is the emotional response.
I wished conservatives could debate topics with their more liberal colleagues in a rational, honest, and fact driven manner. cc @One Brow
They do, lots of people do when they debate you. You just don’t want to receive the information.

The pros of vaccination far outweighs the cons. It’s the best way we have to live normal lives while preventing transmission, severe illness, and death. I think vaccine hesitancy has far more to do with tribalism and the vaccine disinformation peddled by garbage propaganda sources like Fox News everyday than any 25 year old weighing her options. It’s increasingly concerning to be that the anti vax movement aided by the right wing is now enabling other terrible diseases, like polio, to come back. Shameful. Unfortunately, a lot of people who have had their brains rotted out by tribalism don’t feel shame in peddling anti vax nonsense.
Are you saying the right wing is responsible for polio cases? Where are your facts? You want to debate with facts bring it.

Where are most polio cases happening? Not in the USA, try the Middle East.

“4. Why is polio rebounding?​

The $19 billion global campaign eradicated the virus from much of the globe. But it has retained a foothold in Pakistan and Afghanistan, areas of continuing conflict with a history of suspicion of vaccination programs that was amplified by the US Central Intelligence Agency’s use of a vaccination worker to gather information that led to the killing of Osama bin Laden in 2011.”

What about the USA? Interesting after 6 months of a vaccination push, they lifted the emergency.

Interesting, I was told by @The Thriller that Fox News was making vaccine hesitancy worse. Yet it doesn’t look like that with polio.

Bring some facts to the table.
 
The African American community is the least vaccinated and Thriller is calling it tribalism. Either he doesn't understand history or he's not very bright. He considered that "right wing extremism". Extremely stupid stance. He cant see anything past right or left. Many religions do not like putting stuff into their bodies.

It's far more complex than "right wing" idiocy. How one can be so amazingly colorblind is beyond me but again... It is a cult... It is brainwashing.
 
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Where did Biden who heads the US government get the lie that it did stop transmission?
I’m not sure, although I also don’t think it was a lie, but it might have been because early data showed Pfizer’s vaccine did reduce transmission of the early variants:


“Within months of the vaccine hitting the market, researchers in the UK (here) and Israel (here) began publishing studies suggesting that the Pfizer vaccine was reducing transmission of the virus.

In February 2021, for example, Israeli data (here) showed a sharp drop in infections among healthcare workers within 15-28 days of receiving the two-shot Pfizer vaccine series, indicating the vaccine was not just preventing symptomatic disease, but also preventing the virus from being passed from person to person.

“Whether it is 75 or 90 percent reduction doesn’t matter - it is a big drop in transmission,” Michal Linial, a professor of molecular biology and bioinformatics at Jerusalem’s Hebrew University, told Reuters at the time. “It means that not only is the individual vaccinated protected, the inoculation also provides protection to his or her surroundings” (here)

Evidence continued to build in 2021 that the mRNA-based vaccines prevented infections and onward transmission of the virus (here). But with the advent that year of the coronavirus Delta variant, plus waning immunity from vaccines delivered at the start of the year, protection against infection and transmission was seen to be dropping, although not eliminated, as previously described by Reuters Fact Check (here).
 
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The part where you compared seatbelts to putting an experimental drug into ones body that was unconstitutionally mandated? It was a stupid analogy. The government has never killed people with seatbelts.
What? The Covid vaccines aren’t experimental drugs.

As predicted, more fact free emotional garbage.

There are a variety of factors for low vaccination rates among African American groups. You using them as a heat shield is pretty shameful.
 
Pointing out that you just call people something negative every time they disagree with you. Like I said earlier your name calling this week is “rotten brain”.


People bring up facts and articles; you then try to sham the person because you can’t respond with facts. Call people anti-vaxers or brain rot is the emotional response.

They do, lots of people do when they debate you. You just don’t want to receive the information.


Are you saying the right wing is responsible for polio cases? Where are your facts? You want to debate with facts bring it.

Where are most polio cases happening? Not in the USA, try the Middle East.

“4. Why is polio rebounding?​

The $19 billion global campaign eradicated the virus from much of the globe. But it has retained a foothold in Pakistan and Afghanistan, areas of continuing conflict with a history of suspicion of vaccination programs that was amplified by the US Central Intelligence Agency’s use of a vaccination worker to gather information that led to the killing of Osama bin Laden in 2011.”

What about the USA? Interesting after 6 months of a vaccination push, they lifted the emergency.

Interesting, I was told by @The Thriller that Fox News was making vaccine hesitancy worse. Yet it doesn’t look like that with polio.

Bring some facts to the table.
Woo boy

I don’t even know where to start with that big pile of ****

Whatabout whatabout deflect squirrel!
 
What? The Covid vaccines aren’t experimental drugs.

As predicted, more fact free emotional garbage.

There are a variety of factors for low vaccination rates among African American groups. You using them as a heat shield is pretty shameful.
You called them right wing extremist. Your too bigoted to understand there are many many reasons people don't like vaccines that were made in a year.

Yes... The SARS 2 COVID vaccine was brand new. Stop playing stupid. Read reds post
 
You called them right wing extremist.
Oh Yes yes yes, I’m sure. The well-being of African Americans has been your top concern throughout this thread and you’re certainly not going to use them to deflect from the pts and questions that you refuse to address. *eye roll*

There are a variety of factors for low vaccination rates among African Americans yet somehow I doubt your sincerity in actually caring to address them.
 
Oh Yes yes yes, I’m sure. The well-being of African Americans has been your top concern throughout this thread and you’re certainly not going to use them to deflect from the pts and questions that you refuse to address. *eye roll*

There are a variety of factors for low vaccination rates among African Americans yet somehow I doubt your sincerity in actually caring to address them.
Exactly just as everyone else.

I understand why people are hesitant there are many many understandable reasons. Insecure fascist like you bully them and shallowly consider it 'right wing extremism'. Shallow *** bully.
 
You called them right wing extremist. Your too bigoted to understand there are many many reasons people don't like vaccines that were made in a year.

Yes... The SARS 2 COVID vaccine was brand new. Stop playing stupid. Read reds post
I agree, read his post and the article attached. Where did it list that these vaccines were “experimental drugs?” Throughout the article it describes the wide range of testing that was done on these vaccines prior to their authorization. It’s now 2023 and we now know that the vaccines helped slow transmission and guard against severe disease and death even if they’re slightly less effective due to the newer variants.

I don’t think Red or his article is supporting what you want it to support.
 
I think vaccine hesitancy has far more to do with tribalism and the vaccine disinformation peddled by garbage propaganda sources like Fox News everyday than any 25 year old weighing her options.

More Facts for you @The Thriller


Adults who said they were either uncertain or unwilling to get vaccinated were asked which of the following reasons is primary reason why:​

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Looks like people have hesitancy because of what I explained to you earlier. But you dismissed that. Said it was tribalism.

Well let’s look at that:
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31% of independents not planning to or will not get vaccinated. What tribe do they belong to? Do independents gobble up Fox News? Doubt it. They are closer to republicans on hesitancy than democrats. Why is that? Bring facts.

Here is where an average American Adult is getting there news source:
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Woo boy

I don’t even know where to start with that big pile of ****

Whatabout whatabout deflect squirrel!
No whataboutism. YOU brought up polio with no facts. I respond to Polio with facts now you deflect and then try to downplay my response. You just make **** up, you get called out and then run. Again you have no depth at debating.
 


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