John Stockton Claims He Had Proof of 1000 Athletes Dying of Vaccine

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Conspiracy theories about monkeypox sound an awful lot like COVID-19

The Biden administration declared monkeypox to be a national public health emergency. Conspiracy theories abound, many of them recycled.

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Out of one nutjob's mouth, into your ears.

I'll take the world renown professor, scientist, microbiologist, and a director at Waksman Institute of Microbiology over some guy that's not even recognized for much other than a **** blog. OB you are a smart dude and better than this. This piece has nothing in it other than this guy being a complete moron childishly calling others name that he disagrees with. (See... Guys... This is how conversating works(gameface, thriller, log). You use words and explain your side and your opinions. This is called a counter argument.)

A world renown biologist is a nutjob according to OB but some random unknown guy who has no experience in the matter is a genius. Lol how insulting. Here's your nutjobs own bio.

"Orac is the nom de blog of a humble surgeon/scientist who has an ego just big enough to delude himself that someone, somewhere might actually give a rodent's posterior about his copious verbal meanderings, but just barely small enough to admit to himself that few probably will. That surgeon is otherwise known as David Gorski.

That this particular surgeon has chosen his nom de blog based on a rather cranky and arrogant computer shaped like a clear box of blinking lights that he originally encountered when he became a fan of a 35 year old British SF television show whose special effects were renowned for their BBC/Doctor Who-style low budget look, but whose stories nonetheless resulted in some of the best, most innovative science fiction ever televised, should tell you nearly all that you need to know about Orac. (That, and the length of the preceding sentence.)"

Lol talk about a nutjob... Read his actual bio. My God...

"Because of his criticism of pseudoscience and quackery on Usenet, online discussion forums, and blogs over the last 18 years, Dr. Gorski has angered some supporters of dubious health practices and pseudoscience."

Dr. Gorski’s opinions on ScienceBasedMedicine.org are most definitely not intended to represent the opinions or positions of Wayne State University School of Medicine, his department, or the Barbara Ann Karmanos Cancer Institute and should never, ever be construed as such. He doesn’t know how he can make this statement any stronger."

 

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So gain of function... Either way you look at it. Mutating/engineering to make the virus different or in Walkers own words "more potent".

Most mutations and genetic engineering cause certain types of functions to increase, and other types of functions to decline. For example, increasing distance from the vaccine-covered strains while decreasing infectibility would not be gain-of-function research, although I 'm sure you would cast it that way.

I'm sorry I don't think saving lives by gouging customers is admirable.

So you hate capitalism.

Hell they are even planning on marking up y'all life saving vaccine 10,000%.

I appreciate you jumping on the pharmaceuticals-make-too-much-money wagon now, but you're a johnny-come-lately there.

Generic drugs are much cheaper but with our politicians who are making a killing, no way....

Current formulations of the vaccine will be all-but-useless long before they can go generic. No uses a flu vaccine from 2000.

I'll take the world renown professor, scientist, microbiologist, and a director at Waksman Institute of Microbiology over some guy that's not even recognized for much other than a **** blog.

You mean, like Linus Pauling, who claimed Vitamin C could cure cancer? World-renowned scientists regularly wind up following and popularizing stupid ideas when outside of their expertise. In some circles, it's called "Nobel disease". Ebright isn't an expert on coronaviruses nor epidemiology.

This piece has nothing in it other than this guy being a complete moron childishly calling others name that he disagrees with.

That's why I quoted the part that was relevant.

A world renown biologist is a nutjob according to OB but some random unknown guy who has no experience in the matter is a genius.

I don't recall saying Orac is a genius. I never read that Orac considers himself to be genius. He's a skeptic. In many ways, being a skeptic is better than being a genius.

Lol how insulting. Here's your nutjobs own bio.

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Lol talk about a nutjob... Read his actual bio. My God...

I've read it before. I see it as self-deprecating humor. Do you feel that people who use self-deprecation to express humility are always insane? That would explain so much about you.

 

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And you fail to even the entertain the idea that it is true.

I went back to watch the video in comment #349.

1) The guy being interviewed is pretty obviously liquored up and not expressing himself well.
2) I didn't hear anything that indicated an actual problem with the vaccine, just a lot of hypotheticals.

I have no reason to believe that the video is real or unreal. You making a mountain out of something too small for an anthill; a mountain out of a grain of sand.

Now I've brought video evidence, I've brought evidence that it has in fact messed with woman's reproductive cyckes,

Last I heard, there was in increase in cycle length with a mean of less than I day. When we were younger, my wife's period would be delayed by as long as week, or come a week early, depending upon the stressors in our life. Just the tension around getting a pseudo-controversial vaccine could be causing the delay, s opposed to the vaccine itself.

I've brought evidence that they are actually mutating the virus(in their own words "engineering", I've provided a guy that literally works for Pfizer saying some pretty damning stuff.

I didn't hear anything damning, expect to those who desperately want to find damning evidence. You brought shadows under a new moon sky.

You guys, with literally no counter argument claim he's fake.

My claim is that what he said is irrelevant. You have yet to defend the relevance.

If he's real, which everything I see is that he is, the claims he is making is extremely important.

Why?

 

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Why?

Because one of the main guys at pfizer coming out and saying that the vaccine potentially coming from a lab is important to some. I think it's pretty pivitol so this type of thing can be avoided or if it did come from a lab, stop having companies like pfizer mutating viruse and making them "more potent". The insanity that a guy that helps create the vaccine and openly admits to making the virus more potent in a lab stating he thinks it comes from a lab should be very concerning if you actually care about the virus, not just the political spectrum like you do.
Because one of the main guys at pfizer admitting that the vaccine could very well have severe side effects disproves what people like you have been saying for years.
Because one of the main guys at pfizer admitting they are doing gain of function is not only illegal but even as Walker points out, the public does not want this.
Because one of the main guys at pfizer admitting that Covid is a cash cow is pretty substantial to me. You even seem to agree that Pharma is corrupt. This same company now is going to inflate the vaccine 10,000% according to the article I posted
Because one of the main guys at pfizer admitting that they basically buy politicians so they can have a cushy job after their work is done reeks of corruption. Especially when Big Pharma is politician's biggest donor.

I could go on... To act like the virus possibly having terrible consequences from one of it's own creators may be meaningless to guys that will not admit they were wrong, but to those of us that had to fight tooth and nail against people like you, it's a big deal. Imagine if the vaccine was harmful like Walker claims it could be. Imagine being so brainwashed that you don't even care. Wont even address the possibility.

 

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And i want to make it clear. I am not anti-vax, I am anti-force people against their will and fascistly bullying them into submission. Thus why things like a creator of the vaccine admitting there could be dire consequences is a big deal. I understand if you were one of the ones who forced and bullied people why this needs to be swept under the rug but for those of us who questioned the experimental drug and were bullied against, hearing one of the main people at Pfizer admitting EXACTLY what many of us were worried about is a possibility, such as severe problems down the road that's extremely substantial, is extremely relevant. Again... I understand why some that were pretty terrible humans to others for not conforming to the cult want this to go away. It was pretty messed up time for them. There was a lot of hate, venom, and vitriol spewed at innocent people who simply didn't trust the government and a company that gouges life saving drugs 10,000%.

 

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Because one of the main guys at pfizer coming out and saying that the vaccine potentially coming from a lab is important to some.

Sure, that has potentially been true for three years. there is no good reason to think it is actually true, but it is possible.

... stop having companies like pfizer mutating viruse and making them "more potent".

There is no evidence that Pfizer is doing this (and certainly not from the video you shared). You're just scare-mongering.

The insanity that a guy that helps create the vaccine in a lab stating he thinks it comes from a lab

I noticed you dropped the potentially here, another sign you're scare-mongering.

should be very concerning if you actually care about the virus, not the political spectrum like you do.

Are you really so unaware of your limitations that you can discern my unstated motives for talking about this issue?

Because one of the main guys at pfizer admitting that the vaccine could very well have severe side effects disproves what people like you have been saying for years.

This is very silly. Almost anything that isn't water could have severe side-effects. However, so far the side effects that have actually appeared are less severe than those from getting covid.

Because one of the main guys at pfizer admitting they are doing gain of function is not only illegal but even as Walker points out, the public does not want this.

Good thing that there is no evidence this is happening.

Because one of the main guys at pfizer admitting that Covid is a cash cow is pretty substantial to me.

Right, because you hate capitalism in medicine.

You even seem to agree that Pharma is corrupt. This same company now is going to inflate the vaccine 10,000% according to the article I posted

Money corrupts, and and huge amounts of money corrupt absolutely. That's not evidence there is something wrong with the vaccine.

Because one of the main guys at pfizer admitting that they basically buy politicians so they can have a cushy job after their work is done reeks of corruption.

Regulatory capture is an issue all across government, but it's not evidence that there is something wrong with the vaccine.

I could go on...

You could, but you still haven't offered a good reason why the video you shared is important in anyway, and I don't see your arguments getting any better.

 

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... I am anti-force people against their will and fascistly bullying them into submission.

Good thing that never happened with regard to the covid vaccines.

There was a lot of hate, venom, and vitriol spewed at innocent people who simply didn't trust the government and a company that gouges life saving drugs 10,000%.

People who value ghosts and goblins more than their neighbor's lives.

 

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You could, but you still haven't offered a good reason why the video you shared is important in anyway, and I don't see your arguments getting any better.

I actually did, you just choose not to listen. As I said, you have blinders on because you were one of the bullies. To us that were bullied having a main at the company that created the vaccine saying that the vaccine could be potentially dangerous is a huge admittance. It literally confirms what many were hesitant about. To you that may not be important but to us who were bullied, hated on, called "tribal" by bigoted idiots, it's extremely substantial to us.

 

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Good thing that never happened with regard to the covid vaccines.


People who value ghosts and goblins more than their neighbor's lives.

Yet if the neighbor is vaccinated how is their live in jeopardy? You all love to admit the vaccine was ineffective in many ways subconsciously. If my neighbor was vaccinated, he shouldn't have to worry. You are admitting the vaccine is ineffective. If the neighbor was vaccinated they shouldn't have to worry about their lives... Right?

 

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Just want to throw in a random thought here.

If you believe that guy is a "top guy" at Pfizer and that what he said is true then many many scenarios (theories) presented in this thread and the main covid thread about the virus and the vaccine must be abandoned. I'd certainly hold any poster in high regard if they self-identified things they had suggested that they now know are not true and maybe not even possible. It doesn't have to be because of this Project Veritas thing, but just stuff that you now know compared to what you thought might be true in the past.

 

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I actually did, you just choose not to listen.

You offered "potentially", which is meaningless.

As I said, you have blinders on because you were one of the bullies.

Yawn. You'll noticed I haven't called you names. Your arguments just suck, and so you resort to name-calling.

To us that were bullied

By whom? Who threatened you, specifically, and with what?

... the vaccine could be potentially dangerous is a huge admittance. It literally confirms what many were hesitant about.

The word "potentially" negates the word "confirm" in your rhetoric.

 

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Yet if the neighbor is vaccinated how is their live in jeopardy?

No vaccine offers perfect protection. My vaccination protects both the vaccinated and the unvaccinated.

You all love to admit the vaccine was ineffective in many ways subconsciously.

"Effective" =/= "perfect protection".

If the neighbor was vaccinated they shouldn't have to worry about their lives... Right?

Wrong, and uneducated.