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Jordan Clarkson Trades?

Saint Cy of JFC said:
I will say there is close to 0% chance he gets moved as the main piece in any deal. His shooting was so bad last year that teams will need some evidence that he has turned it around with a nice early start.
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I think he has a long enough track record there that teams know what they are buying.
 
Handlogten's Heros said:
Infinitely worse is an exaggeration but fine. Its not necessarily about what they did last year and more about what they do for the next two. Kevin coming off of shoulder surgery might be pretty awful to start the year. He also makes about 7m more the next two years. JC has always been a little up and down so I think he could bounce back up.
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I think JC's awful season has been understated...one of the worst players getting big minutes on a "competitive" team when you consider his terrible offense and defense. Kevin had surgery on his non-shooting shoulder, he is not dead and he's 25 years old. I'm not looking at JC (about to turn 32 in a few days) and saying... "wow his future is bright". Especially compared to a 25 year old.
 
KqWIN said:
I think JC's awful season has been understated...one of the worst players getting big minutes on a "competitive" team when you consider his terrible offense and defense. Kevin had surgery on his non-shooting shoulder, he is not dead and he's 25 years old. I'm not looking at JC (about to turn 32 in a few days) and saying... "wow his future is bright". Especially compared to a 25 year old.
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First of all... there is no such thing as a non-shooting shoulder. Shoulder injuries are some of the scarier ones for basketball players.

Maybe so. He was awful but I don't think teams view us as competitive. I think someone could convince themselves he would bounce back when surrounded by more vets or whatever.

I just know Kings fans were as done with Huerter as we were with JC... so I thought maybe there is something there. Maybe nothing there I suppose.
 
Here's how I see it. If we don't move him, we're 100% trying to lose (he'll make sure we're a bottom team). If we do move him, we lose, since we'd have to give positive assets to move him. It's a lose/lose either way.
 
Handlogten's Heros said:
First of all... there is no such thing as a non-shooting shoulder. Shoulder injuries are some of the scarier ones for basketball players.

Maybe so. He was awful but I don't think teams view us as competitive. I think someone could convince themselves he would bounce back when surrounded by more vets or whatever.

I just know Kings fans were as done with Huerter as we were with JC... so I thought maybe there is something there. Maybe nothing there I suppose.
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Left shoulder, right shoulder...you can't play the "think about the future" card when one guy is 25 and the other is about to turn 32. And the guy who is 25 was way better than the 32 year old last season too.
 
KqWIN said:
Left shoulder, right shoulder...you can't play the "think about the future" card when one guy is 25 and the other is about to turn 32. And the guy who is 25 was way better than the 32 year old last season too.
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Its not the long term future... its the next two years future. That's all they are signed for. But fair enough... There are some here that didn't like the return anyway. I can just see the Kings in general having real interest if Monk gets PAID. I think Monk will get paid so they will likely want some sort of replacement.
 
I would trade him for almost any player. His awfulness combined with Hardy's perverse need to play him 35 minutes a night cannot continue on this team. He's a great dude, but he needs to be a great dude on somebody else's team. At least if you traded him for Huerter, Hardy probably wouldn't have any issue sitting him or giving him DNP's. He can't do that with Clarkson. I'd attach either #29 or #32 with him...just to get him gone.
 
KqWIN said:
I don’t think we’re getting positive value for JC. Would he get the Full MLE this summer? I don’t think he would. Our best hope would be to get a different kind of contract which also has negative/neutral value or get a straight salary dump to a team with leftover cap.
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I think it’s fair to expect franchises to ask themselves, “if this person were a free agent, would I sign them to this money?” But the Jazz didn’t do it with Collins so someone out there would have to do the same.

Maybe.
 
infection said:
I think it’s fair to expect franchises to ask themselves, “if this person were a free agent, would I sign them to this money?” But the Jazz didn’t do it with Collins so someone out there would have to do the same.

Maybe.
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Like I said, someone with leftover cap may take him in if they don’t have other uses of that money. It’s possible that a team like Detroit finds themselves in that situation.

I don’t think there would be the same optimism about Clarkson rehabbing his value than there was with Collins, however. He will be 32 and just had an awful season despite having everything catered towards him.
 
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