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I like CNN and FoxNews as their mention by someone as torch bearers for left vs right is a good indication that I should probably ignore that person. They're entertainment channels targeting the small segment of people that still get their news from TV (70 year old conservatives for FN, and um, people at the airport and the gym for CNN).

I think the only reason FoxNews is as well known as they are is due to exposure by The Daily Show and other liberal-leaning shows. Otherwise, they'd be utterly irrelevant.

Neither is half as bad as the younger online conservative/liberal news outlets. The online echo chambers make cable news seem tame.
 
I like CNN and FoxNews as their mention by someone as torch bearers for left vs right is a good indication that I should probably ignore that person. They're entertainment channels targeting the small segment of people that still get their news from TV (70 year old conservatives for FN, and um, people at the airport and the gym for CNN).

I think the only reason FoxNews is as well known as they are is due to exposure by The Daily Show and other liberal-leaning shows. Otherwise, they'd be utterly irrelevant.

I hardly watch CNN at all. Their website is one of my sources of news, mostly because I like the layout they use better than most the other sites and they have about 1/10 the amount of pictures of scantily clad women than the Fox News website has.
 
It was funny when I worked at IM Flash they had a very large break room. There were 2 TVs, one on each side. On the right side it played Fox News, on the left side it was CNN. While I worked there I saw a considerable amount of what each network was and was not covering. Some days there would be a story dominating Fox and getting no mention on CNN at all. Other days it was the opposite. I think Fox's news coverage was perfectly adequate. I'm talking about their news programming where they had an anchor and they covered news. But they had far less news coverage and far more opinion and political pundit programming than CNN had.
 
NPR is good. They occasionally participate in the political circus, but they are generally good. It depresses me having to listen to the BBC on my way back from work. They're bad.

I also read The Unz Review. And a couple of other publications that don't try to hide their ideological perspective.

They may not politicize discussions but they certainly touch on political pressure points.

I can't stand listening to NPR for long but when I have I've heard plenty programming that far-right types would applaud. They had a pretty cool discussion a few months back about how we are sheltering our children way too much because of perceived fear of increasing violence that isn't reality. Nothing politicizing was said but there were undertones suggesting possible effects of this environment on the future. That's also something people on the right tend to push. I've also heard discussions with economists who gave off a rightist perception.

So yeah, it's annoying hearing them called liberal like CNN is.
 
NPR is good. They occasionally participate in the political circus, but they are generally good. It depresses me having to listen to the BBC on my way back from work. They're bad.

I also read The Unz Review. And a couple of other publications that don't try to hide their ideological perspective.

I love listening to the BBC, got the ABC's 24 hour news channel on in the background now while I consider breakfast. Waiting for them to put together a decent tribute to Helmut Kohl.


I listen to a bit of BBC on the ABC newsradio, love the science hour and their weekly programme on Africa. NPR are good too, I really like their tiny desk gigs they put on youtube.
 
http://money.cnn.com/2017/08/04/news/economy/july-jobs-report/index.html

Milestone for Trump: 1 million new jobs in six months

America has added more than a million jobs since President Trump took office.
The U.S. economy added a strong 209,000 jobs in July, more than economists had expected. The unemployment rate fell to 4.3%, matching a 16-year low. Just after the Great Recession in 2009, unemployment peaked at 10%.
"The economy is looking pretty good," said Cathy Barrera, chief economic adviser at ZipRecruiter, the job posting site.
Many economists say the United States is at or near "full employment," meaning the unemployment rate won't go down significantly more.
 
I thought Presidents couldn't create jobs. Now they can?

It's so difficult to keep up with the right wing narrative. It's constantly changing.

A few years ago trump whined about how the stock market and corporate profits were poor indicators of the overall well-being of the economy. Now he tweets them them out almost daily to brag about all of the good things he's doing for the economy. He campaigned on being the voice of the forgotten man. How many forgotten men, factory workers and coal miners, actually own stock?

A few years ago putin was bad and we needed to attack him cuz Georgia and Ukraine. Now suddenly he's the right's hero.

I just can't keep up with all of the flip flops.
 
CNN with an article essentially praising Trump's willingness to engage with the press and answer all questions without prepared statements or any restrictions on what they asked.

http://www.cnn.com/2017/08/11/politics/trump-questions-style/index.html

Bridgewater, New Jersey (CNN)The President's two unscripted appearances before the press here Thursday revealed a commander in chief with a well of pent up opinions looking for an escape.

As Donald Trump's presidency enters a new phase -- with an order-minded chief of staff and a West Wing reorganization on the horizon -- the President seemed eager to return to the looser style that helped him win.
 
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