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Kanter or Vonleh

Kanter or Vonleh?

  • Kanter

    Votes: 30 71.4%
  • Vonleh

    Votes: 12 28.6%

  • Total voters
    42
You mean when the team went 4-24 from March to the end of season?

Yes, cause that was their fault. Never mind the fact that Marvin and RJ fell the **** off. RJ shot 20% from 3 in April, and that was the only reason he was on the floor. Marvin shot 40% fg and 26% from 3 post all star. Neither of them could defend their positions, etc.

Definitely Kanter and Favors fault, though, eh?
 
You mean when the team went 4-24 from March to the end of season?
yeah it's all Kanter's fault, you know.
In April, Kanter averaged 15/12.8 in 30.5 minutes, not too shabby.
That said, team chemistry is important.
Jazz are going nowhere with this team, it seems and Kanter looks like the most expendable member of the Core5 (along with Burke) to tell the truth.
I voted for Vonleh. Potential, shooting skills, athleticism and big hands!
what is there not to like?
I toleja before, Kanter is a goner.
 
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Dont know much about Vonleh but almost wanna vote for him just since Kanter is so bad on defense

I wont vote though
 
defense is a team issue. we need better concepts and habits as a team before i can write anyone off individually. not saying kanter will ever be elite, but if boozer, west, al jefferson, etc. etc. can play major minutes on top 10 defenses, i believe kanter can in the right scheme.
 
Kanter.

Kanter & Favors started to work in end of season, which is the most recent history.

Kanter & Favors hasn't worked because:

A. Ty never made it a priority.
B. Kanter had never really been coached, so concluding it would/ will never is premature.
C. Kanter wasn't allowed to play "his game" under Corbin. No 3's from Kanter, meant no spacing.
C. Neither were passing big-men. Now? Both are trending upward.


A pairing of Vonleh and Favors would have similar problems, because:

A. Vonleh does not pass. Is another blackhole.
B. is smaller than Kanter.
C. His 3 pt shooting is something Kanter can do.
D. Favors will still be undersized to play the 5, and Vonleh's size necessitates Favors there. Marvin & Favors duo all over again, but w/ less passing and (if it translates) more rebounding (but you get the rebounding w/ Enes also).
E. Vonleh's D is overrated, and was out of place just like Kanter many times last year. He has potential w/ his wingspan, but so does Kanter. Saying Kanter can never defend after one season on a bad defensive team w/ bad defensive schemes is premature.

Enes has a great post game, Vonleh is very raw there.

Kanter is still young and raw, but he is farther along than Vonleh. Enes has the hands that everyone is raving about w/ Vonleh, yet he is taller, and has more muscle mass.
After reading this complete fail of a post, I've come to the conclusion that you, Sexual Favors is the dumbest poster on jazzfanz. This post is so bad, I'm thinking about finding other ways to get my jazz fix. To me this post and possibly this thread is more about Vonleh vs. Gordon then Vonleh vs Kanter. When I find the time and if I care to revisit this trash of a post, I'll show everyone how rediculus SF has become as a poster. Everything Vermin has said about you is right on the money, and not sure you and some of the others that emulate you are worth my time.
 
"RT@ryenarussillo: Talked to two GM's today that couldn't believe how out of shape Vonleh was at workouts. They were really annoyed."

How can a 18-year-old be that out of shape when he's in the running for a top draft choice? That's a huge red flag regarding the commitment of Vonleh. Actually, in my opinion that's three strikes. It's way too risky to go for a top draft pick who isn't serious about preparation.
 
"RT@ryenarussillo: Talked to two GM's today that couldn't believe how out of shape Vonleh was at workouts. They were really annoyed."

How can a 18-year-old be that out of shape when he's in the running for a top draft choice? That's a huge red flag regarding the commitment of Vonleh. Actually, in my opinion that's three strikes. It's way too risky to go for a top draft pick who isn't serious about preparation.

Wow. Not a good sign. So much or the chatter about him possibly going 4th (though I didn't believe him in the first place).


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