Karl Malone 34 points-21 rebounds vs Bulls 92
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prodigy
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what a great first game, you can hear how the crowd was so into the game
Yeah, I was hooked after this game.
The Thriller
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Cannot believe how much better Malone was than any other big man today. If Malone played for the jazz right now, could he average 50 points against the Boozers, Gasols, Amares, and other weak bigs that dominate this game today? My how things were different when you had The Admiral, Dream, Ewing, and Barkley.
dipship31
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Agreed. Hardly any bigs today really want to focus defense at all and Malone would just abuse them.
Not to sound too homerish, but I think that Enes and Malone have a lot of similarities, and I think Enes could possible become a better post player. Enes needs to develop his face-up game, confidence in his jumper, and left-hand. He also needs to use just one-hand more, that is, one-handed dunks, passes, and finishes. Enes has shown sparks of Malone's rebounding skills with his swinging of his elbows/arms, but Enes needs to attack at full speed much more often, he has good speed (via combine measurements and eye-test), he needs to use that much more often. Also, he trots down the court much to often even in fast breaks. Look at the way Malone flies down the court. Hopefully, Enes improves on these things. Malone was just amazing! I challenge those who say that Duncan is better than Malone to say that Malone in his prime wouldn't have won championships with a David Robinson or Parker/Manu combo.
There weren't really measurements back then. 6' 9" could mean with or without shoes, rounded up or rounded down, but most people don't know any of it. He's just listed at 6' 9" and a lot of pounds of pure muscle.
Unless someone can find something, I don't think there are details to be known.
squareinthecircle
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I think I saw stats of Karl for the Dream Team measuring in at 6'8" without shoes, so 6'9" with, which is how players are usually measured.
Agreed about him being a beast. Early in his career he would just post up and dunk on guys, later he would use his best-in-the-league midrange game. Throughout he ran like a gazelle. Loved his rebounding in the game posted. Not only did he get a lot of them but they pretty much all looked cool too.
Agreed about him being a beast. Early in his career he would just post up and dunk on guys, later he would use his best-in-the-league midrange game. Throughout he ran like a gazelle. Loved his rebounding in the game posted. Not only did he get a lot of them but they pretty much all looked cool too.
The Thriller
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the other thing that isn't really talked about but really shows in almost all videos, is how damn smart he was.
Dude sounded like an idiot.
But he played the game with such an incredible intelligence.
How often did we see Boozer make the wrong move on a pick and roll on defense or screw up with the hedging (basically any time he's put in a pick and roll situation? How often do you see Gasol just completely take the wrong angle? How often do you see guys like Amare take a shot when they should have driven or drove when they should have shot?
How often would he pull the chair from under the post player and draw a travel?
Never did he fail to box out.
The more and more I see the NBA and its bigs, the more I come to admire Malone. The more and more I see the guards of the NBA, the more and more I see how much we truly lacked back in the day. CJ Miles=Chris Morris. Instead of a guy like CJ Miles, we needed a guy like Manu. A guy that's solid, can take pressure off, create, but is never that great.
Think of it this way, Hayward, a young player that is still developing probably would be the Jazz's 3rd or 4th wheel back in the day. I think that says a lot of the Jazz not having much around Malone and Stockton...
Or had we had Memo (before his injury) instead of Felton Specer, Tag, Police, Todd Fuller, and Jerry's shower buddy? Stockton, Hornacek, Money Memo, and Malone would have led the Jazz to at least 3-4 titles.
Dude sounded like an idiot.
But he played the game with such an incredible intelligence.
How often did we see Boozer make the wrong move on a pick and roll on defense or screw up with the hedging (basically any time he's put in a pick and roll situation? How often do you see Gasol just completely take the wrong angle? How often do you see guys like Amare take a shot when they should have driven or drove when they should have shot?
How often would he pull the chair from under the post player and draw a travel?
Never did he fail to box out.
The more and more I see the NBA and its bigs, the more I come to admire Malone. The more and more I see the guards of the NBA, the more and more I see how much we truly lacked back in the day. CJ Miles=Chris Morris. Instead of a guy like CJ Miles, we needed a guy like Manu. A guy that's solid, can take pressure off, create, but is never that great.
Think of it this way, Hayward, a young player that is still developing probably would be the Jazz's 3rd or 4th wheel back in the day. I think that says a lot of the Jazz not having much around Malone and Stockton...
Or had we had Memo (before his injury) instead of Felton Specer, Tag, Police, Todd Fuller, and Jerry's shower buddy? Stockton, Hornacek, Money Memo, and Malone would have led the Jazz to at least 3-4 titles.
GVC
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About the same size as Lebron James.
MVP
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Malone is so much more athletic, powerful and fierce it is not even close to compare those two. Look how explosive he is going for those dunks or rebounds. Sorry but Kanter is nowhere near similar to K.Malone. He looks very similar to big Al when it comes to post up play and that up and under move looks like stolen from big AL. but Malone... seriously? how many young players where compared to Malone ( Kemp, Coleman to name a few and even our own K.Humphries ) since ninties and none turned out even half player K.Malone was.
The only player I see ever coming close to K.Malone's level is B.Griffin if he stays healthy.
MVP
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Add AK to that lineup and you have dynasty.
The Thriller
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Kanter looks big, but he's nothing like the athlete Malone was.
Malone would be a mix today of Amare, Zach, and Dwight. He'd be Boozer, but 100x more athletic, post moves, and actually had some something in the lower half.
The only player I think that compares to Malone today is Blake Griffin. Especially if he starts developing more of a pick and pop game and improves his FT shooting...
I think people need to look at Kanter as more of a Andrew bogut or Luiz Scola. A hustle player who's relentless on the boards and has some nice (developing) post moves. I'll reserve the franchise potential tag for later...
Favors on the other hand, has that franchise player potential...
Malone would be a mix today of Amare, Zach, and Dwight. He'd be Boozer, but 100x more athletic, post moves, and actually had some something in the lower half.
The only player I think that compares to Malone today is Blake Griffin. Especially if he starts developing more of a pick and pop game and improves his FT shooting...
I think people need to look at Kanter as more of a Andrew bogut or Luiz Scola. A hustle player who's relentless on the boards and has some nice (developing) post moves. I'll reserve the franchise potential tag for later...
Favors on the other hand, has that franchise player potential...
squareinthecircle
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I remember at one time thinking a young Larry Johnson was to be the next Karl Malone. There will never be another Malone, just like there will never be another Jordan.
Karl had athleticism over Kanter but they can both run like deer. Kanter really can move for someone his size.
I grew up watching Malone, and one thing that was always apparent to me was that he was never an elite athlete as far as his jumping was concerned. Malone almost never did ally-oops, very rarely dunked with two hands, and after about five years in the league would lay the ball up rather than dunking it time and time again. There were always dozens of high-flying acrobats that were far superior to Malone in their athleticism. Kemp would have destroyed Malone if it was based on pure athleticism. Blake Griffin is absolutely so far away from Malone that is isn't even worthwhile to entertain that comparison, Griffin is far superior. Malone would never, never, ever in a million years have won a dunk-contest--ever! Malone was pure power with a decent jump. He nearly always dunked with one hand and used his massive hands on every possession. Malone's athleticism was never his calling card. Malone's calling card was power, toughness, savvy, and an unstoppable jump-shot. Enes has tremendous power, toughness, and good fundamentals. Enes, like Malone, is not that big of a shot-blocker. I could go on and on with this. Enes does not equal Malone. But he has many similar attributes to Malone in his athleticism and some aspects of his game. Enes is light years away from Malone in lots of things, but not in athleticism, overall bulk, toughness, and desire to have contact. By the way, I think all comparisons of players are almost always wrong and simplistic. Enes, like all rookies, has done nothing upon his entrance into the NBA; it's what they do when they get there that matters.
really ? i thought he is taller, then Enes isnt that short as many people is concerned