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Jazz Fusion said:
After summer league, is JB even an option?
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I can see Butler, Stanley Johnson and NAW included in a 3-1 trade or traded for a couple of second round picks. I thought Butler stunk in SL. The player taken just before him in the 2nd round barely got a second two way contract from the Kings. I know he's young, but unless the Jazz go in super tank mode, he ain't playing.
 
Handlogten's Heros said:
They could have done THT plus some stuff for Turner and maybe only one pick… The pacers seem to have a weird thing with buying out Russ.
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Maybe?

But I don't think they wanted THT without getting rid of Hield. They also have kind of a SG logjam. And the Lakers were not going to trade THT for only Hield and not Turner, I suspect. And if you get both Turner and Hield, the Lakers definitely had to send out Russ.
 
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idiot said:
Maybe?

But I don't think they wanted THT without getting rid of Hield. They also have kind of a SG logjam. And the Lakers were not going to trade THT for only Hield and not Turner, I suspect. And if you get both Turner and Hield, the Lakers definitely had to send out Russ.
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There was definitely rumblings in the media about Turner for THT + a pick. If the Jazz get both Laker picks, this deal had something to do with that.

I do think Danny likes THT too though, for whatever reason.
 
NUMBERICA said:
A lot of people were desperate to find reasoning that made sense when in the end the Jazz actually just really, really ****ed that **** up.

Two of the top Lakers priorities this offseason had to have been:
- Get off THT's bad contract (and play, he ****ing sucks)
- Get a solid starting point guard that is comfortable off ball with intangibles

We gave them all of that in one deal and got nothing but the ****** player.
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THT is going to make you look like the ultimate dumbass. I can't wait to see it.
 
Handlogten's Heros said:
Yes and no... I agree there is way more pressure on the Lakers here as they basically can't do a straight expiring swap for Russ and are stuck with him or taking on salary if we move on... We do have some pressure though. Bogey is on an expiring contract and you will get the most value for him before the season starts. So there is an expiration date at some point here.
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Compared to the Lakers, the pressure is essentially nil. The Jazz can easily trade Bogey.

I still say the Beverley trade works in the Jazz favor right now... it is creating more pressure with each passing day.

If that trade hadn't been completed, it would be way easier for LA to insist (with a straight face) that Westbrook is "their guy". But with him on the roster, all of their preseason media coverage becomes intolerable theater.

Beverley could start. Russ may be asked to come off the bench. It would be difficult for any opposing GM have a hand in setting up the type of scenario that exists right now in LA, but Ainge has done exactly that.

No one in their right mind buys that those two are going to get along for 82 games. If the Jazz get what they want from Pelinka, the THT trade becomes legendary.
 
Just keep in mind that at the time the Jazz grabbed THT they were likely going with the Knicks and wouldn’t have a lot of youth at the guard position. So why not take a shot on him? They also probably perceived that THT made an Indiana trade more feasible.

Sadly, it might wind up being the one minor misstep of an otherwise amazing summer.
 
framer said:
There was definitely rumblings in the media about Turner for THT + a pick. If the Jazz get both Laker picks, this deal had something to do with that.

I do think Danny likes THT too though, for whatever reason.
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He's like a poor man's Marcus Smart. There's some potential there, but he's raw and undisciplined. He loves to shoot off balance, and it really shows.
 
I think st this point the Jazz make the trade for an unprotected pick and something like a top 8-10 protected pick. But the Lakers take Conley or Gay. I do think they are on the clock.
 
Bodhi said:
I’m a pro-THT guy. For the record and when we are all pretending which side we took 7 months from now.
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Interesting strat.

Myself, I'm planning on remaining neutral until an obvious frontrunner emerges, at which point I'll say I was behind him all along.
 
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