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LDS General Conference Fall 2015

Many good talks, but my favorite was Uchtdorf's talk about simplifying. I'm pretty sure it will be totally lost on 75% of Utah Mormons.

I did a perfunctory search and didn't find anything. Can someone point me in the right direction? I'd like to either watch or read about this talk. It sounds interesting...
 
I don't think so. It is frustrating that the church does not have a more diverse leadership, but the issue lies more in the past than in the current times. These guys have basically been being groomed to be apostles for at least a decade. There just aren't isn't a lot of diversity in the top levels yet, and it seems it will take some time for that to change. There are a lot of new members of the quorum of the seventy who are from somewhere other than utah or north america, but they have been called to that position relatively recently. It takes time for them to get the experience that others have just by virtue of being in the leadership positions longer.

Those are my thoughts. Maybe I am wrong, but in my mind the alternative is that the old dudes are still racist and they think God never changed his mind about black people.

I appreciate the response. It sounds like a plausible scenario but even if it is the reality, what you're saying is that the leadership of the church didn't think diversity was important in the year 2005.
 
I appreciate the response. It sounds like a plausible scenario but even if it is the reality, what you're saying is that the leadership of the church didn't think diversity was important in the year 2005.

That is why it is frustrating.
 
I appreciate the response. It sounds like a plausible scenario but even if it is the reality, what you're saying is that the leadership of the church didn't think diversity was important in the year 2005.

ok maybe my opinion doesn't count for much since it's coming from a position of white privilege and all that, but I don't think you can automatically jump to this conclusion without knowing the places of all the moving pieces

perhaps there's a certain protocol that's typically followed and they're grooming a diverse group to move up the ranks but nobody was yet in position to advance

from my quick reading of what's been posted, it seems that is a large part of it and the next group of leaders to move up will reflect more diversity

or so it may be hoped
 
I did a perfunctory search and didn't find anything. Can someone point me in the right direction? I'd like to either watch or read about this talk. It sounds interesting...

You can watch any/all of the talks here: https://www.lds.org/general-conference/sessions/2015/10?lang=eng. In a couple of days they will also have links up so that you can read the talks.

Pres. Uchtdorf's talk on simplifying that was mentioned is this one: https://www.lds.org/general-conference/watch/2015/10?lang=eng&vid=4529103258001&cid=4
 
I did a perfunctory search and didn't find anything. Can someone point me in the right direction? I'd like to either watch or read about this talk. It sounds interesting...

So I didn't take the time to find an actual link, but go to lds.org. There is a link to the most recent general conference talks (I think it's right there on the home page, called "watch or read conference talks" or something like that). I believe the talk you're looking for was in the Saturday morning session.
 
ok maybe my opinion doesn't count for much since it's coming from a position of white privilege and all that, but I don't think you can automatically jump to this conclusion without knowing the places of all the moving pieces

perhaps there's a certain protocol that's typically followed and they're grooming a diverse group to move up the ranks but nobody was yet in position to advance

from my quick reading of what's been posted, it seems that is a large part of it and the next group of leaders to move up will reflect more diversity

or so it may be hoped

This is kind of what I am thinking. But there may be another couple openings in the next year or two and maybe then we will see some diversity. Maybe we are simply a couple steps ahead of the Church. This is a conservative group and I expect them to be conservative in their time frames as far as leadership goes.
 
Wow, just wow.

So if I'm reading the article correctly, the website in question was first selling things at a profit, then selling things at cost, then selling at a profit again but donating the profits to the missionary fund, and then taken down. All within hours.

Horrible lapse in judgment.

P.S. b_line clear your inbox. I just got an error when quoting you in the reply

It's bizarre. It would be one thing if it popped up after the fact. This guy did pretty much exactly what unpaid clergy should not do.

On the other hand, though, is this that different from the prophets selling their autobiography at a profit? I remember when Tommy became the prophet, the very first commercial after each conference session was for his book that was somehow written at the perfect time to take advantage of a captive audience at conference. I understand that members of the church have a desire to read anything and everything about the prophet, but profiting off of the position makes me feel like king Benjamin would want to slap them silly.
 
It's bizarre. It would be one thing if it popped up after the fact. This guy did pretty much exactly what unpaid clergy should not do.

In Durrant's defense, it wasn't him, it was a family member. But he knew about it and should have stopped it.

On the other hand, though, is this that different from the prophets selling their autobiography at a profit? I remember when Tommy became the prophet, the very first commercial after each conference session was for his book that was somehow written at the perfect time to take advantage of a captive audience at conference. I understand that members of the church have a desire to read anything and everything about the prophet, but profiting off of the position makes me feel like king Benjamin would want to slap them silly.

I suspect many if not most church leaders donate the proceeds from book sales. But I don't know for sure.
 
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