That situation can cut both ways too. I agree with your point, and it is likely too soon to bench Kanter. On the other hand, players also know who is and is not performing, who can and cannot perform. They can be hurt by playing/starting a guy who should, just because of his draft position or contract size. I think that Kanter is getting to getting close to the point of proving that he can't do it.
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That situation can cut both ways too. I agree with your point, and it is likely too soon to bench Kanter. On the other hand, players also know who is and is not performing, who can and cannot perform. They can be hurt by playing/starting a guy who should, just because of his draft position or contract size. I think that Kanter is getting to getting close to the point of proving that he can't do it.
candrew
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Lousy comparison.
For one thing Booker isn't 35 years old and on his 27th team (Jefferson, yes I know it's not 27 but I'm not going to bother to look it up)
He's also not coming off a season in Utah where he completely **** the bed and put up career lows in almost everything (Williams)
Most importantly, Kanter is getting his shot, last year and this year, and he's failing to the point of putting up league worst stats in some measurements. Some folks are ready to move on - maybe pre-mature; but not unwarranted either.
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1. Marvin complemented Favors and the other starters better than Kanter last season.
2. Kanter wasn't ready to take on a larger role, so giving him an opportunity to work out kinks and have some success against bench players makes some sense (last year and this year). We have a decent idea what kind of players Marvin and Booker are, and they don't need to grow into their skills/the NBA game anymore. There's more to player development than minutes.
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Consider me chimed in and recognized.
Ty may have been right about kanter, while I may have been wrong (I'm wrong alot btw)
Still a little too early to tell though and imo booker looks to be > marvin.
But ya, Corbin is looking good for his moving kanter to the bench so far.
One other thing...... I think even alot of us Corbin haters could see that marvin helped with floor spacing and alot of us (myself included) were in favor of signing marvin to a new, cheap contract.
Jefferson's (richard) role (starting and playing too much) was alot more criticized and perplexing to most of us.
Sexual Favors
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Booker is a pleasant surprise.
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But I am still not going to act like I've learned anything after only 3 reg season games.
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But I am still not going to act like I've learned anything after only 3 reg season games.
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All dis Kanter hate must be hard on ya, braugh.
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Give Kanter 10 games or so in the starting lineup... even though I'd love to see Booker and Blake go at it for 35 minutes tonight. We have to make sure that Kanter and Favors does not work, even if it costs us some ball games. Then we can figure out an alternative plan. Either Kanter moves to the bench to see if that will help or we trade him for whatever we can get. There may be one team who's willing to give up something good (or something okay) for Kanter.
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Also, remember how awful Alec looked at the beginning of the year last year. Sometimes things click and guys can turn it around.
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In that case, I think we can give Kanter half the season. We're not going to contend. So let's be 100% CERTAIN Kanter cannot adapt his game. Just look at what QS did with DMC in Atlanta. I don't think ANYONE thought Carroll would break out like he did.
I don't have much hope that Kanter can be the type of 4 the Jazz need, but this is a season of discovery. Better to be sure than see him sign on the cheap somewhere else next season and then have an amazing year.
In either case, Booker still gets 20 mins+ and we have him under contract for next season. It's non-guaranteed, but that's just a formality. Jazz will pick up the contract. Not sure if possible, but maybe they could negotiate a 4-yr deal for him. He's only scheduled to make $5M. Tear up the contract and pay him more next season and then declining over the final three.
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gregbroncs
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This is how I felt. I liked Marvin and felt he should play. I don't think he should have been pigeonholed as a PF, and I don't think Jefferson should have been getting more than 10-15 minutes a game off of the bench. Jefferson basically told everybody he was not coming back yet still played far too many minutes. Burks is showing that he deserved minutes. He was far better than Jefferson and should have started and played more than him. Furthermore Marvin was better than Jefferson and easily could have moved to SF if needed.
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Kanter may be showing to be less than expected. But that should have been shown previously. We should not be going into his contract year with no idea if he can play against starters, or with the other starters.
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I don't see any defense for the way Corbin handled the team last year. He was not being judged on wins or loses but on development and defensive ability. This team so far has shown more defensive ability and a system that seems to fit them better. How it turns out we will see, but I have hope for this team now. I never had any hope while watching the players run Corbin's "system".
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I wasn't surprised. I had been pushing Carroll that whole season before we let him go.
