Lockout!!!

[GVC]

I have no idea what difference the hard cap makes either but it must make some difference and a pretty ****ing big one if Hunter's asking for 65%.

My original major issue, before you menstruated, was with Numberica's assumption that the owners are being douches here. We don't have a ****ing clue where the truth lies. I tend to believe the owners were losing money. Numberica seems to sit on the other side of the fence. Neither is wrong. But you were with your tone. If I ever see you now, I'm gonna slap you in the face with my ****.

No you won't. I'll cut the little ****er right off if you try. And I just called you a clown...pretty vanilla 'round these parts. Stop being such a sensitive little flower.

edit: I also called you a ****ing moron. My bad. No hard feelings?

 

[Siro]

Guys guys. You're missing out on the opportunity to turn this asinine debate into a political one. I can easily see how one side represents the Republicans and the other Democrats. I suggest you proceed along those lines.

 

[GVC]

We don't have a ****ing clue where the truth lies. I tend to believe the owners were losing money.

We know how other leagues operate, we have some knowledge of the TV deals the NBA has relative to other leagues, and we know what the owners demanded. Given that information, plus David Stern not denying that the players have compromised, it seems to me the owners are not negotiating in good faith, choosing instead to play a game of chicken with the players. It's their right to do so, and I have no problem with it, but if I have to lay blame to one side or the other if the season is cancelled, it's going to be the owners (as of today).

 

[GVC]

Guys guys. You're missing out on the opportunity to turn this asinine debate into a political one. I can easily see how one side represents the Republicans and the other Democrats. I suggest you proceed along those lines.

The owners AND the players are worthless fascists? NHL, here I come.

 

[Gyp Rosetti]

We know how other leagues operate, we have some knowledge of the TV deals the NBA has relative to other leagues, and we know what the owners demanded. Given that information, plus David Stern not denying that the players have compromised, it seems to me the owners are not negotiating in good faith, choosing instead to play a game of chicken with the players. It's there right to do so, and I have no problem with it, but it seems as though the owners will be more to blame if there is no season (to me, anyway).

I don't disagree. But **** it, at least Kobe, Duncan, and Nowitzki will be a year older.

 

[Gyp Rosetti]

No you won't. I'll cut the little ****er right off if you try. And I just called you a clown...pretty vanilla 'round these parts. Stop being such a sensitive little flower.

edit: I also called you a ****ing moron. My bad. No hard feelings?

Dude, you know how I roll. **** it.

 

[GVC]

Dude, you know how I roll. **** it.

So we'll be sharing ***** in a more friendly manner if ever we cross paths?

 

[Gyp Rosetti]

So we'll be sharing ***** in a more friendly manner if ever we cross paths?

**** yeah.

 

[freakazoid]

Ah, get a ****ing room already.

 

[DutchJazzer]

1. "THEY". Who is, who isn't? Don't cite me vague, info-war Stern press-releases.
2. What constitutes "loss"? How much of the loss is legally cooked books? Don't cite me vague, info-war Stern press-releases.
3. BILLIONAIRES. Do people know what that means?
4. Players will be losing money, and a MUCH larger source-of-income than the owners will be.
5. Owners won't negotiate in good faith if the report is true.

not losing money is what made them BILLIONaires. if they though like you about losing money that it dont matter cus there is till some money left. they wont be billionairs they would have been poor like you.
also note that nba players are NOT losing money. they are not investing anything. most nba player dont know crap about finances. they burn through there money. some worse then others eg sprewell and barkley to a lesser degree

 

[sepanol]

so i guess the news is no good, we returned back to where we were in the beginning?-i mean the lockout talks-, no light at the end of the tunnel?

 

[margodydek]

Margo's stance:

I would have liked the owners to budge just a little from their stance as I think they could salvage the season if they did, but having said that, I think it was definitely time that the players make a big concession. People can argue what the true average salary is for the players, but no matter how you slice it, the players have been getting their 57% every year. The NBPA is like a successful guy who works on Wall Street, but still lives with his parents scot-free. Well the NBPA's dad isn't the brightest tool in the shed and got fired from his job due to incompetence. So for the sake of all: Dad (owners), son (NBPA), and mom (fans), I think the son should chip in for the time being until Dad get's his !@#$ together, once that happens, then they can reasses their situation.