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TheItinerantSon said:
What people don't seem to realize is that this is an IMPORTANT political issue. in this country we have record corporate profits paired with the highest unemployment in a generation.

The question remains is it morally acceptable to take and take and take from your workforce even when you are making a profit? With the public siding with the owners, we are sending a message to the executive class that yes it is OK.
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So we shouldn't have the NBA until we get all our real world problems worked out? Sounds like a great way to look at things.

Occupy the NBA!!!
 
TheItinerantSon said:
What people don't seem to realize is that this is an IMPORTANT political issue. in this country we have record corporate profits paired with the highest unemployment in a generation.

The question remains is it morally acceptable to take and take and take from your workforce even when you are making a profit? With the public siding with the owners, we are sending a message to the executive class that yes it is OK.
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:confused:
 
TheItinerantSon said:
the nfl players got their asses handed to them... that doesnt mean everyone else should take paycuts at the whim of their employers.
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You still don't get it, TIS (or maybe you get a rise from people responding). There is no reason that the NBA athletes should get a higher BRI than the NFL. If anything, they should get less, given that the NBA player's average league lifespan is shorter and their average salary (and median salary, I believe) is significantly higher than the NFL, even if the BRI drops all the way down to 50-50. Furthermore, the owners (foolishly, IMHO), have proposed options to keep salaries high (e.g., by reducing total headcount per team), but that still wasn't good enough for the NBA punks.

Revenue has not gone down - NBA revenue was higher in 2011 than at any point in league history*, and player profits were ~57% of that (just like every other year in the CBA. If expenses are up its because owners are blatantly monkeying with the numbers either through accounting tricks or by having the teams do business with their outside companies at a loss.
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Or maybe, just maybe, that other expenses are up, which is a fundamental component that you ignored. Whether it was by choice or by chance, profits are negative, even after accounting for non-cash expenses or discretionary expenses.

Or you can ask the owners of the Hornets or probably even the Jazz how tricky is to operate an NBA team profitably--much less at a good return.

Bottom line: the players have to ask themselves if it worth sacrificing part or all of this season's income that they will never get back (1% of 10-year BRI per 4+ months of the season) in exchange for attempting to bump up the BRI for a percentage point or two. The owners will DEFINITELY not give them 53%, will most likely not give them 52%, and only possibly will give them 51%. The players would be much better off taking 50-50.
 
....I've got to get this computer to do spell checking when I'm posting! Someone help me out here! I keep mispelling these words and your going to think I'm an imbecile!!
 
carolinajazz said:
....I've got to get this computer to do spell checking when I'm posting! Someone help me out here! I keep mispelling these words and your going to think I'm an imbecile!!
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I have absolutely no doubt that the majority of players who you keep characterizing as idiots are smarter than you. And make no mistake, I agree with you that there are a boatload of mental midgets in this league.
 
Meeting just let out after 16 hours. Another meeting scheduled for 10AM. Mediator has asked that both sides refrain from commenting, and they are complying.
 
Jeditiger said:
Meeting just let out after 16 hours. Another meeting scheduled for 10AM. Mediator has asked that both sides refrain from commenting, and they are complying.
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I hope this is good news
 
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