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cowhide said:
I am not a big fan of Fisher but what is he suppose to do take a bad deal.
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...when you have them by the nads....their hearts and minds will follow! So making $5o,ooo instead of $100,000 dollars a game is all that bad? Get a grip! These clowns were so overpaid it's not even funny! So they won't be able to "pimp there ride" as much as before....or bank roll half the strip clubs in the country. If they use there heads they will still be in great shape financially both now and after they retire.
 
cowhide said:
The owners are actually like a bunch of bullies.
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The players should teach the owners a lesson by starting their own league. I think we can all agree that the players would get along in perfect harmony if they were owners, and they would all share their money and everything would be fair from now on.

cowhide said:
I am not a big fan of Fisher but what is he suppose to do take a bad deal.
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No, he should hold out as long as possible, so the players can lose even more money that they'll never recover.
 
its like a never ending staring contest with both parties waiting for the other to blink first,but the owners have toothpicks lodged in their eye sockets and bigger wallets in their pockets.whose gonna win this one.cmon players wake up the owners aint blinking first.you are losing more money every day and being mad that the owners wont blink is making you more stubborn and broke.you aint winning this one,tap or they will break you.
 
cowhide said:
Yea because the owners have been so willing to compromise. The owners are actually like a bunch of bullies. I am not a big fan of Fisher but what is he suppose to do take a bad deal.
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I'd agree if it were a bad deal. I was on the player's side in the NFL lockout because the owners had no real good points. But in this case the majority of NBA franchises are losing money and the players are being offered a fair deal. Where on this deal are the players getting screwed? If they could at least show that they may get some public opinion on their side, including mine, but they haven't. 50/50 and a more restrictive luxury tax doesn't seem unfair at all.
 
There are a number of “B” list items to be covered today which sources say are basic parts of the deal including what the age limit will be, how the NBA draft will function, drug testing and disciplinary functions.

There is a belief the NBA is pushing for the age limit to be increased from 19 to 20 in the next labor deal, something the Players Association is not adamantly opposing. The Players would like to see a trigger put in place to allow top performing rookies to hit free agency sooner. The Players’ side wants to see players like Derrick Rose that overachieve on their rookie deal have some avenue to hit free agency sooner. If the Owners agree to such a concept, then the age limit in the NBA may jump to 20 years and two years removed from high school which would radically change the outlook of the 2012 NBA Draft.

https://www.hoopsworld.com/nba-am-players-and-nba-close-to-a-deal/
 
cowhide said:
Yea because the owners have been so willing to compromise. The owners are actually like a bunch of bullies. I am not a big fan of Fisher but what is he suppose to do take a bad deal.
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He's supposed to recognize his true position at the table. The players have NO leverage. None. This isn't 1999. The world has changed. 50/50 BRI is the best deal they're going to get. 52.5 is a delusion.
 
If I'm running a business and decide that I'm willing to do business according to x criteria and willing to shut my business down under y criteria you could call me uncompromising all you want. It'd be MY business to continue or not continue depending on the criteria I chose.

I'd like for the players to get as much as possible. I'm not one to say they are overpaid. They should get paid as much as they can possibly get. Only now they're trying to "get theirs" by sacrificing this season of basketball. That's where I lose sympathy for them and their cause. The owners have shown them what they're willing to pay. No one is going to starve to death as a player in the NBA. If the players have more attractive opportunities outside the NBA then by all means they should go for those opportunities. If, on the other hand, their best and only chance to make millions is in the NBA then they should take what they can get now and play basketball.

I don't see them as trying to get a "fair deal" from the owners. I see the players as trying to get more than they're worth* at the expense of the fans.

*things are worth as much as people are willing to pay for them.
 
Gameface said:
If I'm running a business and decide that I'm willing to do business according to x criteria and willing to shut my business down under y criteria you could call me uncompromising all you want. It'd be MY business to continue or not continue depending on the criteria I chose.
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That's not playing fair. I'm taking my ball and going to Europe.
 
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