Looking for genuine discourse re: Donald Sterling/NBA
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oh I hope CJ's gonna be OK!
You had to guess?
technically, I think he hypothesized
I'm amazed that, as an relatively intelligent adult, you think the music industry is leading the teens to glorify gangsters, and not the other way around.
At least, when he's not playing a policeman threatening and assaulting other black people.
At no point where we talking about the whole music industry. Nice try. We have been talking about rap and to a lesser extent hip hop. Go listen to the up an coming rappers. Listen to what they are actually saying in their songs and the images they portray.
Also isn't this your usual MO? How society portrays this image of an aggressive and dangerous black male?
Something petty like driving Dwight Howard away, making Gasol miserable, and feuding with Bryant? I see plenty of basketball reasons for that tweet.
How do musician make money on rap/hip hop/blues/rock/pop/anything else? By expressing what people what to hear someone else say so they will buy/listen to that music. There are many talented musicians with a sizable black following doing rhythm & blues/jazz/non-gangster rap. However, the kids who feel the gangster rap says what they want to hear but the gangster rap. If you really want to get into some of the reasons for this, we can.
I do agree some people taking these gangster rap musicians, and pretending that they are causing the issue instead of responding to it, while treating black youth as a bunch of sheep who are too stupid to pick their own music, and plaster these images all over movies, news media, etc. with no context and no balance, further the racism in this country. They've obviously manipulated you on this issue; I can't ever see you saying that Buddy Holly, The Beatles, or The Rolling Stones, Kiss, Iron Maiden, or The Ramones were corrupting influences. To you, they were just musicians (whose music you may or may not have enjoyed).
First of all we were not talking about Rythym and Blues or Jazz in this thread. Focus.
Are they creating the issue? No. They are however reinforcing it. But I've already said that to you as you well know. Please stop being disengenous.
As for what I consider the final bands you mentioned. Please do not assume you know anything about what I consider them since at no point in time have we ever talked about them, that form of music or the affects that they had on the culture during their time.
seems pretty single-dimensional to think that those who are buying/paying for the music are doing it because it's what they want to hear...
what about doing it because they're just following what someone else is doing...
or what they think will make them seem cool...
or because they know their parents/guardians object...
lot's of reasons, and the specific meaning behind the actual lyrics is often pretty far down the list
Why am I not surprised you completely missed the point and went on spewing your racist viewpoints? I don't see you complaining about Al Paccino movies glorifying gangsters and directing this at white people. You only care when it's a black actor or black singer.