Marijuana: Facts, Myths, and plain old Stupidity.

[TroutBum]

Okay, anyone who has ever smoked weed and doesn't want to lie about it. I wasn't going to call you on your bs, but your claim of "awesome hallucinations" form weed is more than likely a crock. If you're now saying that smoking too much weed doesn't make you tired, then you are definitely full of it.

And there you have it.

Conan is an idiot because he never has done it, so his opinion isn't valid.

Trout is an idiot because even though he's smoked probably 10x as much as the average user, his ideas and reactions about and to the drugs don't coincide with mine -- therefore, he's wrong and a liar; his opinion isn't valid.

Got it.

 

[SaltyDawg]

And there you have it.

Conan is an idiot because he never has done it, so his opinion isn't valid.

Trout is an idiot because even though he's smoked probably 10x as much as the average user, his ideas and reactions about and to the drugs don't coincide with mine -- therefore, he's wrong and a liar; his opinion isn't valid.

Got it.

No, conan is an idiot because he's calling everyone a moron who disagrees with him- even though he has no experience with marijuana and has posted no scientific data supporting his opinion, and others have experience with it and are posting studies to support their positions.

You're an idiot because you're flat out lying about it (if you are in fact saying that smoking too much weed doesn't make you tired- which is what I was saying in the post you quoted and decided to say not everyone who has smoked weed agrees).

(for the record, I never actually called anyone an idiot)

 

[Saint Cy of JFC]

And there you have it.

Conan is an idiot because he never has done it, so his opinion isn't valid.

Trout is an idiot because even though he's smoked probably 10x as much as the average user, his ideas and reactions about and to the drugs don't coincide with mine -- therefore, he's wrong and a liar; his opinion isn't valid.

Got it.

Your claim to "awesome hallucinations" does make you sound pretty bogus. Marijuana doesn't make you hallucinate.

 

[TroutBum]

No, conan is an idiot because he's calling everyone a moron who disagrees with him- even though he has no experience with marijuana and has posted no scientific data supporting his opinion, and others have experience with it and are posting studies to support their positions.

You're an idiot because you're flat out lying about it (if you are in fact saying that smoking too much weed doesn't make you tired- which is what I was saying in the post you quoted and decided to say not everyone who has smoked weed agrees).

Do you believe that people can drink a Mtn. Dew in order to sleep better? All logic points to "No", but I do it on a regular basis. As for weed, ya, it can make you tired. For ME, it usually wired me. I pulled many all-nighters playing WoW, EverQuest, drawing, reading, screwing, etc. all while blazed out of my mind. So, in short, weed didn't make me tired. If anything, it turned my brain on and made it harder to relax and just sleep.

But I'm probably flat-out lying.

 

[TroutBum]

Your claim to "awesome hallucinations" does make you sound pretty bogus. Marijuana doesn't make you hallucinate.

Ironically, an article posted in this very thread written by Carl Sagan disagrees with you. Again, we're both probably lying. Because, you know, lying about your drug use is SO COOL!

 

[TroutBum]

And just for funsies, I Googled, "Does weed make you halucinate". Turns out the world is FULL OF LIARS! OMG!!1

 

[SaltyDawg]

Do you believe that people can drink a Mtn. Dew in order to sleep better? All logic points to "No", but I do it on a regular basis. As for weed, ya, it can make you tired. For ME, it usually wired me. I pulled many all-nighters playing WoW, EverQuest, drawing, reading, screwing, etc. all while blazed out of my mind. So, in short, weed didn't make me tired. If anything, it turned my brain on and made it harder to relax and just sleep.

But I'm probably flat-out lying.

So are you claiming that no matter how much weed you smoke you would never get tired? I am aware that really good weed can wire you if you only smoke a little of it. Try to smoke a whole ounce/QP/Pound/whatever and tell me you don't get tired at some point.

 

[TroutBum]

So are you claiming that no matter how much weed you smoke you would never get tired? I am aware that really good weed can wire you if you only smoke a little of it. Try to smoke a whole ounce/QP/Pound/whatever and tell me you don't get tired at some point.

*sigh*

You got me there. At some point, you will make ANYONE tap out.

You win.

 

[Saint Cy of JFC]

I interpret "awesome hallucinations" as full on hallucinations. As in, you can literally see something in full. I guess people could interpret blurred vision, paranoia affects, and closed eyed pattern effects (close your eyes and seeing tie-dye type patterns) as "hallucinations", but I wouldn't.

 

[SaltyDawg]

*sigh*

You got me there. At some point, you will make ANYONE tap out.

You win.

When the facts are on my side, you are fighting a losing battle. Weed absolutely does make you (and anyone else) tired if you smoke enough if it. This is not debatable, it's a scientific fact.

 

[SaltyDawg]

I interpret "awesome hallucinations" as full on hallucinations. As in, you can literally see something in full. I guess people could interpret blurred vision, paranoia affects, and closed eyed pattern effects (close your eyes and seeing tie-dye type patterns) as "hallucinations", but I wouldn't.

Completely agreed. If you see something that isn't there and you think it's real, that's a hallucination. If you close your eyes and see a small lightshow while your eyes are closed, similar to what you see when you look at a bright light and then close your eyes, but the world is fine when you open your eyes, that's not an "awesome hallucination" to me. I guess that is open to one's own interpretation though so I never called him on it. But claiming that there is no amount of weed that will make you tired is flat out bull.

 

[CONAN]

I know very few people, but I've known people who have driven while too high. Fortunately, that usually just leads to the driver forgetting where he's supposed to be going and ending up in the middle of nowhere, but it absolutely could be dangerous. No question.

I know we are not seeing eye to eye on a lot, but your intellectual honesty here is appreciated.