Marijuana: Facts, Myths, and plain old Stupidity.

[GVC]

Seriously though, why is enjoying a joint any worse than enjoying a cheeseburger?

 

[colton]

...someone who smokes way too much pot won't want to get up off the couch. This isn't a manual or a rule, it's just a fact about what smoking too much pot does to people.

Someone who has taken prescription pain killers also probably won't want to get up off the couch... and yet sometimes such people DO try to drive. There's a law against that (I assume), and if marijuana ever gets legalized there should be a law against people driving while similarly impaired with marijuana.

 

[SaltyDawg]

I smoked like a chimney for almost five solid years. I agree 100% with Conan. To argue otherwise is foolish beyond measure. Conan is trolling you guys like it's his job -- and you're doing a wonderful job of playing along, mind you -- but in the end, strip off all of the trollishness, he's spot on.

Also, not that it has any relevance on the issue, but I was in the car when my buddy crashed. We were all blazed out of our minds in the Molca Salsa drive thru when he just put his head back and started rambling about politics. His foot slid off the brake and we rolled into the side of the building. Not one of the three of us in the car noticed it was happening until it went 'boom'.

I'd say your example absolutely has relevance on the subject. It's the first example of marijuana making driving dangerous that has been posted in this thread.

I'm not sure it makes "driving" dangerous, but it is still relevant. What it does show is that when you get high, you tend to focus in one one thing. if your friend had been "driving" at the moment, he likely would have been focused in on that. Or maybe not, I guess that is one of the topics that was originally being debated in this thread.

 

[CONAN]

Trout, you guys must've lost your manuals or something. Cuz first off there is no way you guys wouldn't have been on your couches if you were blazed out of your minds. And secondly the manual shows ways to drive to mitigate the impairment.

 

[SaltyDawg]

Someone who has taken prescription pain killers also probably won't want to get up off the couch... and yet sometimes such people DO try to drive. There's a law against that (I assume), and if marijuana ever gets legalized there should be a law against people driving while similarly impaired with marijuana.

Prescription pain killers are absolutely nothing like marijuana (at least the ones I have taken). The more weed you smoke, the more tired (or lazy, or whatever you want to call it) it makes you. That's part of the "high" and anyone who has ever smoked weed understands this. That's why it's so funny when conan tries to make fun of that position. It's not a manual or an unwritten rule or whatever nonsense he is trying to spin this as. It's just a fact about the effect of marijuana on a person.

 

[colton]

Insert legal drug of choice, then. The fact is that many legal drugs make one tired. And yet sometimes people do operate vehicles while under the effects. So why should legalized marijuana be treated any differently?

 

[TroutBum]

Prescription pain killers are absolutely nothing like marijuana (at least the ones I have taken). The more weed you smoke, the more tired (or lazy, or whatever you want to call it) it makes you. That's part of the "high" and anyone who has ever smoked weed understands this. That's why it's so funny when conan tries to make fun of that position. It's not a manual or an unwritten rule or whatever nonsense he is trying to spin this as. It's just a fact about the effect of marijuana on a person.

Enough of the "anyone who has ever smoked weed" bull crap. I have smoked weed. Lot's of it. I agree with Conan. There, now you don't have that crutch anymore.

 

[Scat]

Insert legal drug of choice, then. The fact is that many legal drugs make one tired. And yet sometimes people do operate vehicles while under the effects. So why should legalized marijuana be treated any differently?

I don't think tired is the correct term. Pain killers, mary jane, booze and even meth affect your concentration, reaction time and cause level thinking to be diminished. To what degree? Everyone's different but to argue that they don't diminish your capacity to function is just intellectually dishonest.

 

[SaltyDawg]

Insert legal drug of choice, then. The fact is that many legal drugs make one tired. And yet sometimes people do operate vehicles while under the effects. So why should legalized marijuana be treated any differently?

Because smoking some marijuana doesn't get anyone as high as say, taking a bunch of narcotic pain pills. And when you start to get really high on marijuana, you also get really tired/lazy/whatever you want to call it.

 

[SaltyDawg]

Enough of the "anyone who has ever smoked weed" bull crap. I have smoked weed. Lot's of it. I agree with Conan. There, now you don't have that crutch anymore.

Okay, anyone who has ever smoked weed and doesn't want to lie about it. I wasn't going to call you on your bs, but your claim of "awesome hallucinations" form weed is more than likely a crock. If you're now saying that smoking too much weed doesn't make you tired, then you are definitely full of it.

 

[GVC]

I know very few people, but I've known people who have driven while too high. Fortunately, that usually just leads to the driver forgetting where he's supposed to be going and ending up in the middle of nowhere, but it absolutely could be dangerous. No question.

 

[SaltyDawg]

I don't think tired is the correct term. Pain killers, mary jane, booze and even meth affect your concentration, reaction time and cause level thinking to be diminished. To what degree? Everyone's different but to argue that they don't diminish your capacity to function is just intellectually dishonest.

Tiered is absolutely the the correct term. If you smoke a lot of weed, you will literally pass out. It makes you tired. The more you smoke, the more tired you get.