Marijuana: Facts, Myths, and plain old Stupidity.

[Saint Cy of JFC]

Nice. Also:
https://weedgrower.com/marijuana-strains/afghanica.html

God, makes me jealous I don't live on the West Coast were this kind of quality is readily available.

 

[SaltyDawg]

Actually, you did contradict yourself, but this is like trying to argue that the Earth revolves around the Sun. Either you believe it or you don't, nothing I say will change your mind.


If you "know" that, why do you keep using it as a crutch for your argument?


I'm not sure why you bothered responding with this, as I dropped this section of the argument pages and pages ago. Again, Earth - Sun - Revolution... You get the idea. Not relevant to this part of the argument.


You're right, you didn't call me a jackass. Apologies for the inference. FWIW, I respect the Hell out of you as a person, as you and I have had quite a few interactions over the years; but this doesn't disqualify you from being retarded online, which is the case here. (and with any topic that has Utah Utes in it) As has been pointed out by several people in this thread, THC does NOT always make you tired, nor is it a scientific fact. To say that, "Even if you never felt tired, it doesn't mean smoking twice as much wouldn't have put you to sleep." is ridiculous.

So, here we are again.

Are you being serious here or just trolling because you don't have anything of value to add?

In case you're being serious, let me clear this up for you.

My position is that marijuana doesn't make driving dangerous enough to warrant making it illegal. I believe that marijuana has a point where it can actually make you pass out, so there is obviously a point where driving would be extremely dangerous (or not even possible). But I believe that this point is not usually reached by pot smokers. In fact, it is so rarely reached that we don't need to bother making laws to restrict it.

It is not debatable if enough THC in your system can put you down. Yes, it is debatable if taking a few tokes off a pipe will make you tired or not. It is not debatable though, that the THC in the weed will make you tired if you take enough into your body. I realize that everyone reacts to drugs differently to a point. However, those minor variances in the reactions between people all have their limits. For example- you don't go to the hospital for surgery and get "wired" from the drug they are using to put you to sleep. Maybe it's possible if you had an extremely low dose, but if they give you enough you will absolutely get put to sleep (or unconscious, whatever you want to call it).

And, again, I know most people don't take enough THC in to reach this level- that is the whole point I am trying to make here. There is no need to make a law restricting something that nobody ever does anyway.

I posted a couple of links that show moderate to high marijuana doses don't make driving anymore dangerous than someone who is still well under the legal alcohol limit to drive. So there is more than just my opinion here. My point is that normal marijuana usage is probably fine. The point where it gets dangerous is beyond the point where you won't want to get up off the couch- beyond what most pot smokers would consider normal.

 

[CONAN]

Not in a fictional manual, just a reality in this thread.

I think that's the reality of your life, Dude.

 

[SaltyDawg]

I think that's the reality of your life, Dude.

Not the reality of my life at all. Most people I know wouldn't call everyone a moron for disagreeing with them on a subject they know nothing about. And everyone I know is aware that too much THC will put you to sleep. This thread is not indicative of the real world at all.

You live in a bubble. I don't share that bubble with you. Just because you found a couple people on this board who share your bubble doesn't mean it's my reality.

 

[CONAN]

I'm still waiting for a response to my question about smoking weed v. eating cheeseburgers.

If you smoke weed you'll eat cheeseburgers?

Seriously, you want to know the difference between eating a cheeseburger and smoking weed? For me, I'd say the big one is that one seriously alters your brain and the other does not. Certainly eating cheeseburgers can become sad in and of itself if abused. But I consider it more sad that someone has to alter their brain to be happy. Comon that's pretty pathetic. Is life so bad you have to change the way your brain views it? And I don't see why you're all up in arms over it. It's not that far-fetched a position and probably one held by the majority of non-druggies and druggies.

 

[CONAN]

OK then I will just outright disagree with you then. I have taken THC capsules and they do not make me tired.

You obviously are lying.

 

[CONAN]

Not the reality of my life at all. Most people I know wouldn't call everyone a moron for disagreeing with them on a subject they know nothing about. And everyone I know is aware that too much THC will put you to sleep. This thread is not indicative of the real world at all.

You live in a bubble. I don't share that bubble with you. Just because you found a couple people on this board who share your bubble doesn't mean it's my reality.

Most people I know don't live in their own little world. I definitely teach a few like that and the similarities between you and them are interesting.

It's a free country so you're welcome to your own personal truths but it shouldn't surprise you that no one is buying most of the stuff you try to sell as universal truths. It's obvious you have an issue squaring with that and that's sad but I do enjoy the entertainment. So never stop being you please.

 

[SaltyDawg]

Most people I know don't live in their own little world. I definitely teach a few like that and the similarities between you and them are interesting.

It's a free country so you're welcome to your own personal truths but it shouldn't surprise you that no one is buying most of the stuff you try to sell as universal truths. It's obvious you have an issue squaring with that and that's sad but I do enjoy the entertainment. So never stop being you please.

Nobody is buying it??? lol, again, you're in your own world man.

See the 2 links I posted. Plenty of people are buying it. Maybe the people you talk to on a daily basis aren't, but like I said, you live in a bubble.

 

[CONAN]

Nobody is buying it???

Nope. Majority of people in this thread (potheads, too) agree that driving while high is a bad idea. Sorry, Bubbletroll.

 

[SaltyDawg]

Nope. Majority of people in this thread (potheads, too) agree that driving while high is a bad idea. Sorry, Bubbletroll.

No, majority of people in this thread who have ever smoked the stuff do not agree that driving after smoking small amounts should be illegal. And this thread is not the same as a majority of experts anyway.

Like I told you troll, you live in a bubble.

 

[GVC]

But I consider it more sad that someone has to alter their brain to be happy. Comon that's pretty pathetic. Is life so bad you have to change the way your brain views it? And I don't see why you're all up in arms over it. It's not that far-fetched a position and probably one held by the majority of non-druggies and druggies.

I don't have to smoke weed to be happy, but I enjoy smoking weed. Why is that sad? Just because I enjoy something doesn't mean I abuse it. You no doubt enjoy some foods more than others, and I'd guess that some of those foods aren't the healthiest foods you could be eating. Is it pathetic to indulge yourself once in a while? Is it wrong to enjoy life?

And, I think the "mind altering" argument is a false distinction. If you do anything you enjoy, that thing is altering your mood/emotion and thus your mind. Again, what is so bad about smoking weed? Why are people who smoke weed for recreation pathetic? That a bunch of idiots think it's bad (mostly because they've been told it's bad) is not a very persuasive argument.

And I'm not bent out of shape, I just don't understand why you label me as brain dead, pathetic, etc. for a relatively safe and healthy recreational choice I make.

 

[CONAN]

No, majority of people in this thread who have ever smoked the stuff do not agree that driving after smoking small amounts should be illegal.

That's not what I said and as usual you are spinning. I said the majority of of the people in this thread have said you shouldn't drive high. And of course you jump right discrediting them because they disagree with you. Hey, they are potheads too speaking to being high. Thought that meant they could speak to the subject? You're a flip-flopping troll.