Marijuana: Facts, Myths, and plain old Stupidity.

[GVC]

Conan, I'm guessing the only people you actually know who smoke pot are high school students who, as a whole, are extremely unaccountable and irresponsible.

An occasional escape (and, again, I don't think smoking weed is necessarily escapism at all...in fact, I think it often makes people more engaged with the world around them) is not cause for concern. Watching television occasionally is escape behavior, but as long as it isn't overly consuming, it probably doesn't mean the person's a total write-off (or maybe it does...although we're all ****ed if that's the case). Seeing that you're somewhat active on this message board, it's clear you're no stranger to escape behavior, but I'm not willing to say you lack accountability based on that alone.

And no, I don't agree that's it's criminally "irresponsible", only criminal, and thus has potential criminal consequences.

And, again, what is the standard for something being wrong? Wrong is wrong by what standard? Stating something doesn't make it so; I expect some reasoning here, although I doubt I'll get any. If I occasionally smoke a little weed in the privacy of my own home, who am I hurting? How does that show that I'm irresponsible? Why does that make me pathetic?

The truth is, unfortunately, you've been brought up to believe "drugs are bad", and you aren't one to challenge conventional "wisdom".

And you can go ahead and ask anyone who's seen me interact with children about whether they'd let me babysit (none of them are weed smokers). I think they'll all agree that I'm responsible, respectful and attentive enough to watch kids, and gladly leave theirs with me.

 

[GVC]

It puts your brain in an unnatural state.

You've defined natural very narrowly here. Consuming weed is a lot more natural than eating processed foods, I'd say (I'm guilty of both), and the latter puts you at a much higher risk of life shortening/altering/ending illnesses/conditions than the former.

 

[GVC]

I've met GVC several times and I'd be hard-pressed to find a more intelligent human being.

Duh.

 

[Saint Cy of JFC]

Can we stop talking about if getting high and driving is dangerous and start talking about how fun/relaxing it is to drive high?

 

[Saint Cy of JFC]

If you smoke weed you'll eat cheeseburgers?

Seriously, you want to know the difference between eating a cheeseburger and smoking weed? For me, I'd say the big one is that one seriously alters your brain and the other does not. Certainly eating cheeseburgers can become sad in and of itself if abused. But I consider it more sad that someone has to alter their brain to be happy. Comon that's pretty pathetic. Is life so bad you have to change the way your brain views it? And I don't see why you're all up in arms over it. It's not that far-fetched a position and probably one held by the majority of non-druggies and druggies.

Altering ones perception has been practiced for a long, long time. It's considered to be a natural part of the human condition.

Also, I personally enjoy eating carrots when I get high. Carrots are highly regarded as one of the most healthiest vegetables.

 

[GVC]

Just found a very good website. For those interested in cannabis studies, this list (compiled by an old lady who uses cannabis medicinally to relieve migraines) should be right up your alley (extremely comprehensive): https://grannystormcrowslist.webs.com/apps/forums/

 

[TroutBum]

GVC's intelligence isn't at issue here. Trout, are you telling me you'd be ok with someone who smokes at least once a week watching your kids for a weekend while you and the wife went out of town?

It would depend on the person, and that's the truth. Smoking pot doesn't inherently make you a bad person. I don't agree with it anymore and feel much the same you do, but I can't judge someone because they choose to.

 

[Nate505]

I enjoy myself for sure but I don't need drugs to do it. Sad really.

Yeah, for you it's all about trolling threads. Sad really.

 

[Nate505]

Someone who has taken prescription pain killers also probably won't want to get up off the couch... and yet sometimes such people DO try to drive. There's a law against that (I assume), and if marijuana ever gets legalized there should be a law against people driving while similarly impaired with marijuana.

No arguments here. In fact, from a pragmatic approach I don't care what sort of driving restrictions they put on it provided I can buy it and grow it legally.

 

[Saint Cy of JFC]

GVC's intelligence isn't at issue here. Trout, are you telling me you'd be ok with someone who smokes at least once a week watching your kids for a weekend while you and the wife went out of town?

Would you let someone who drinks alcohol once a week babysit your kids?

 

[Saint Cy of JFC]

I see no reason to go there, Thomas, no reason at all. That just looks like you're giving in and taking cheap shots because your argument blows. This is classic Salty/Jeter/Sharpy rhetoric.

While I agree the end of the comment was a cheap shot; do you not agree that since Conan has no experience with the drug himself, his views are therefore limited?

 

[GVC]

I see no reason to go there, Thomas, no reason at all. That just looks like you're giving in and taking cheap shots because your argument blows. This is classic Salty/Jeter/Sharpy rhetoric.

Or classic Trout/Conan rhetoric. Anyway, I edited the post. If you edit yours, it will be as though I never wrote that to begin with.

My argument doesn't blow, and the point I make is true (although its impact is lessened with the pot shot, certainly). Kinda strange seeing you calling out someone out for a cheap shot.