We pay the salaries. We allow them their livelihood. Our passion gives them employ. Why is the assumption we are passive spectators?
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We pay the salaries. We allow them their livelihood. Our passion gives them employ. Why is the assumption we are passive spectators?
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They can be pissed about his decision to leave too
What would be the reasoning other than the team might be worse off?
The only person who knows the true answer is Hayward and perhaps his wife. It is pure speculation as to when he knew and to what degree he knew it. Everybody is simply constructing a narrative based on rumor's, innuendo, and extrapolation based only the outcome.
When do you think it was appropriate for him to tell the Jazz?
It's the only reason I'm upset. I'd be upset even without the delay. As every fan should be. I don't understand people who see pro sports as purely business, and yet they continue to watch and call themselves fans.
I'd be upset if I actually thought Utah would have done anything. The only report was they would OPJR liked the Jazz's contract better, but he signed Brooklyn's instead bc Utah had to wait on Hayward.
I think that is total BS though. I dont think Utah was going to sign anyone if they lost out on Utah. I dont see Gallo choosing Utah over LA and that is the only person I really wanted (and who I think Utah actually wanted).
I think that is total BS though. I dont think Utah was going to sign anyone if they lost out on Utah. I dont see Gallo choosing Utah over LA and that is the only person I really wanted (and who I think Utah actually wanted).
Fandom and sports business can't be separated. Fans are fine with the business aspect of pro sports as long as it works in the team's favor.
Fans are indifferent to the business. They only care about the quality and future of the team.
If DL mistreated Hayward and that caused him to leave, we would all turn against DL. But he didn't, so now Hayward is the enemy.
They definitely care about the business side. Fans complain about contracts given out all the time.
DL haggled over a million dollar difference. We could have had Hayward for 4 years if DL wasn't stupid (back then). I think DL has learned a lot since then, but he was at contract negotiations back then.
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Fans only care about the team. Business happens to be an integral part of sports. It's incidental. Only the fate of the team is relevant. So people who say it's just business are either emotionally uninvested (not fans) in a team, or insincere. Because you know, it is irrelevant to fandom outside of the logistics of building a team for those in the know.
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I agree. There simply wasn't a replacement for Hayward on the matket. I actually think that the guy who will be asked to shoulder a lot of the load will be Joe Johnson. That contract looks like solid gold at this point. Johnson/Jingles/Hood will be asked to replace Hayward's production. Burks/Mitchell/Exum will be asked to replace Hood's production. Jazz are going to need to get more scoring out of everyone on the team. Curious to see how Rubio does. Is he just a pass first guy, or can he increase his own point per game production as well?
George Hill's stats prior to Utah. . .
11.3 points per game - 3.3 rebounds per game - 3.2 assists per game - 0.9 steals per game - .801% free throw % on 2.6 attempts per game - .376 3 point % on 3.1 attempts per game
His one year in Utah under Quin Snyder. . .
16.9 points per game - 3.4 rebounds per game - 4.2 assists per game - 1.0 steals per game - .801 free throw % on 4.0 attempts WR game - .403 3 point % on 4.8 attempts per game
Ricky Rubio's stats through his career thus far. . .
10.3 points per game - 4.2 rebounds per game - 8.5 assists per game - 2.1 steals per game - .830 free throw % on 3.9 attempts per game - .315 3 point % on 2.1 attempts per game
I have hope that Quin Snyder and his player development staff will help Ricky Rubio improve his 3 point shot just like Paul Millsap, Demarre Carroll, George Hill and Joe Ingles have. It may not be by much, but even a slight increase in attempts and makes will improve Rubio's offensive numbers dramatically.