Maybe it's Millsap...

[Archie Moses]

Millsap homerism humors me, but whatever. Millsap has big games, but he has games where he's purely a role player putting up pure role player numbers. I doubt he could ever be a pillar to the offense, but let's at least wait a little while before proclaiming Millsap an all-star.

lol

Millsap has shown for years he's more than a role player. I mean, look at his double double streak from a few years ago and tell me that a role player does that. Millsap is so much more polished than most PF in the league and has the heart of Rudy. Millsap, more than likely, will have the best #'s this year for the Jazz. To not think so is just silly.

 

[Stifle Tower]

Good post, spazz.
Agree. If Millsap continues to shoot well from the outside, teams will have to think hard about sending a double out. At the very least, it leaves Jefferson covered by just one big. And Millsap knows how to pass the ball...six assists last night. There are a lot of very good PF's in the WC, so Millsap may not make the all-star squad. But it sure looks like he's capable of averaging at least 18/10 and making us all forget about that 20/12 guy who gave up that much on the other end.

 

[C l u t c H 385]

This thread is quite the over reaction to a 30 point game. Many players in the NBA can go for 30 on any given night. Am I happier with this year's roster compared to last? I think so.

Is Millsap as good or better than Boozer on the offensive end? Hell naw.

 

[BabyPeterzz]

lol

Millsap has shown for years he's more than a role player. I mean, look at his double double streak from a few years ago and tell me that a role player does that. Millsap is so much more polished than most PF in the league and has the heart of Rudy. Millsap, more than likely, will have the best #'s this year for the Jazz. To not think so is just silly.

It's not silly at all. The jury is still out on Millsap and his ability to produce night in and night out. We've seen plenty of pedestrian performances out him, even when he's been the starting PF.

Of course we're all pulling for Sap and the team needs him to produce consistently. But to anoint him a 20/10 player this early in his career as a starter is an emotional response, not rational. Let's see how well he does against some real length.

 

[twentytwo]

I can see 2814's point and agree with what he is saying to some extent. Having said that, he comes across as one arrogant douche of a cyborg.

However, saying that without Boozer or Jefferson that Millsap is nothing due to our system-- tell that to 2008 Paul who had the longest double-double streak in the NBA (by far) with Boozer watching from his favorite seat in the second row.

Also, Jefferson + Sap >>>>> Boozer + Sap. These two guys' game (especially with Paul's improvement from range) are greatly complimentary to one another.

 

[vslice02]

I'm not sure Millsap will ever be an all-star - but he does have the potential to put up "all-star" type numbers with the Jazz.

Also, for the most part I have to agree with Jazzfan2814 when comparing Boozer to Millsap within our offense. Boozer's reputation among Jazz fans takes a hit because the first thing everyone remembers are his performances against the Lakers, but Boozer was a terrific passer from both the high-post and low-post, he could shoot the 12-foot fallaway in Utah's cross-screen action, he could pick-and-roll, pick-and-pop, and most impressive slip the screen and get the ball in that 12-15 foot pocket where he'd either take the jumper or pass to the corner for an open 3. Also he was a finisher with his ability to take contact and finish. In our offense, he is superior to Millsap (which doesn't take anything away from Millsap who's improved to the point he's an awfully good PF in our offense too). Their differences in defense and durability shouldn't make for much - if any - of an overall drop-off - provided Millsap can avoid the foul trouble that plague him at times.

When healthy, Boozer was terrific in our offense. Millsap's always healthy and also pretty good. Different players, different strengths and weaknesses, but Utah can be successful with either one of them.

 

[Hopper]

Let's see how well he does against some real length.

I think we all done seen both Loozer and da Paperboy go up against some "real length" in the series against LA last year, eh, Baby?

 

[Archie Moses]

It's not silly at all. The jury is still out on Millsap and his ability to produce night in and night out. We've seen plenty of pedestrian performances out him, even when he's been the starting PF.

Of course we're all pulling for Sap and the team needs him to produce consistently. But to anoint him a 20/10 player this early in his career as a starter is an emotional response, not rational. Let's see how well he does against some real length.

I'm not saying anointing him a 20/10 player is silly, I'm saying calling him a "role" player is silly. Guys like Raja Bell are role players. Millsap, no, he's a center piece, corner stone, go to guy, reliable dude, etc.

 

[Gyp Rosetti]

Millsap's Luis Scola-ish. Better than a role player but not quite a main cornerstone for a team.

Scola by the way has been insane so far with 26/14 per.

 

[Hopper]

When healthy, Boozer was terrific in our offense. Millsap's always healthy and also pretty good. Different players, different strengths and weaknesses, but Utah can be successful with either one of them.

Yeah, what he done said, eh?

 

[Harcher]

I think Millsap is Scola-ish as well. Which is pretty darn good. But we are also seeing him 3 years behind Boozer.

I think the issue is that Boozer was a false Cornerstone. He is good and he is better than Millsap (compareing their last year together here.) But i have reasonable optimism that Millsap will continue to close that gap this year especially after seeing his jumper to complement his overall game. (A skill that Boozer was definately better at last year.)

When Malone's name is thrown in for comparison, i look at this way: On a scale of 1 to 10 Malone is a 10 and Millsap and Boozer are 6,7 respectively. Millsap and Boozer are in same league, Malone is not. Boozer is an All-Star just about where he belongs - a couple of times. If his team-ethic was higher, he'd still be a Jazz man. But possibly (optimistically) that will prove out to be good for JazzFanzz.

 

[SubZeroJazz]

Word of the day? Don't lower it to your own level.

Obviously you did little other than look up the most base-definition of the word, without understanding the underlying complexities.

That is, within lawyering, to obfuscate. Rather redundant.

And yes, my reply is pedagogic. Yet your post certainly called for it.

As far as psychology, it's humorous how typical you are: so sarcastic and simultaneously proud of your own ignorance. Though, I suppose to miss that point is the point. For you.