The NBA is proposing new lottery rules that levels the odds of getting the top 3 or maybe even the top six picks. I think that hurts the Jazz in their current state. I believe the Jazz are going to be in the bottom five for the next several years. Why would we even consider changing the system until we are a much better team? Even if we improve over last year, and I believe we will, we still play in the Western conference. It is going to be hard to win a lot of games until we get more talent. I hope any lottery changes come several years from now.
NBA's proposed lottery changes bad for Jazz
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Thee Idiotic Minivan K
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76ers are outraged, and are fighting the nba over the proposed changes. Lol
You reckon? I think they're in a good place with MCW and Embiid. (except that Saric pick, I thought that was a big biff)
Thee Idiotic Minivan K
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Isn't Embiid out at least half the season?
green
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Everyone in the NBA is pissed. Top 5 market, that should be making money for everyone else is tanking year after year after year, costing the league millions.
I don't think changing the lottery hurts Utah at all. They will be 5-10. If they end up #5 or 6 they would have better odds at getting #1 then under the current system.
I don't think changing the lottery hurts Utah at all. They will be 5-10. If they end up #5 or 6 they would have better odds at getting #1 then under the current system.
I disagree. I think it is good. Jazz will not be bottom 3. So this would actually increase their chances. Especially as they get better. Personally I say the Jazz will be better than the Sixers, Celtics, Pistons, Magic and Bucks. So that is an increase in our chances at a top 3 pick. Even more so as the Jazz improve.
Also good for the league as it fosters competition.
Also good for the league as it fosters competition.
Its possible the Jazz will be 5-10, but the its also possible they could be bottom 3. Right now the teams with the worst record really have stacked odds of getting the best pick. This theoretically helps the bad teams get better. It also promotes tanking.
If the the lottery changes so that the bottom eight teams all have pretty similar odds of winning and the first 6 positions now up for grabs rather than the first three positions. The Jazz could suck forever. Lets say the Jazz are in the bottom three for the next three years (which is a remote but real possibility) they could literally pick 7-9 each of those years if the lottery system proposed is adopted. That would be horrible with no help on the horizon. At least with the current system if you suck then you have hope. With the new system teams could suck forever.
Jazz4ever
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Probably good for the Jazz if it gets passed, they are not bottom 5, will probably end up picking around 10. Being very conservative....
Exum, Hood, Booker, Novak > Garret, JL3, Marvin, RJ: +5 wins
Natural progression of core: + 4 wins
Quin Snyder > Ty Corbin: + 3 wins
Exum, Hood, Booker, Novak > Garret, JL3, Marvin, RJ: +5 wins
Natural progression of core: + 4 wins
Quin Snyder > Ty Corbin: + 3 wins
green
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Beat you by seconds. Ha ha. Enlightened minds think alike.
LOL .. Sixers objected to the new changes ... SURPRISE!!!
https://espn.go.com/nba/story/_/id/11284856/philadelphia-76ers-fighting-nba-push-change-lottery-system
https://espn.go.com/nba/story/_/id/11284856/philadelphia-76ers-fighting-nba-push-change-lottery-system
Coach Ellis
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It was their blatant organizational tanking that caused the other owners to decide to do something about it. Teams shouldn't be punished for trying to be as good as possible. Hopefully the Warriors go into a free fall and land in that bottom 5 realm for the 2017 draft.
They are tanking so bad. I hope they get a terrible pick in upcoming draft
LOL .. u know my Econometrics Professor at U of Auckland was this korean guy named Dongyu Sul. A real character of a man. Everytime I see your user name it reminds me of him (and how I could be earning the big bucks now if I had listened to him, LOL).
oH well, money's not everything I guess....
That's being conservative? Wow! I think you are fairly optimistic. I think we might improve, but not by much. In his latest article Pelton published the projected WARP-improvements(or declines) for the teams in the league after free agency. Now that metric is not perfect but it gives some sense of what's to be expected. We are the 4th most improved team in the NBA according to WARP(behind only Cleveland, Dallas and Chicago). Here's the section in his article talking about the Jazz:
The projection is +3.1 wins compared to last year. Which I think is somewhat realistic expectation(2-5 wins more than last year). If Snyder turns out to be really good maybe we can add a couple more.
It is said there the Jazz are supposed to be one of the teams with the biggest improvement? Fourth overall?
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