Never Trump

[Gameface]

I played little league baseball when I was like 7 maybe. Everyone got at least a little plastic trophy. The winners got bigger better trophies. The people I hear bitch about this are around my same age and they act like things have just absolutely fallen apart "nowadays." Makes me wonder when "nowadays" started? Like 50 years ago?

People act like everyone is getting one of these just for participation...

 

[NAOS]

I played little league baseball when I was like 7 maybe. Everyone got at least a little plastic trophy. The winners got bigger better trophies. The people I hear bitch about this are around my same age and they act like things have just absolutely fallen apart "nowadays." Makes me wonder when "nowadays" started? Like 50 years ago?

People act like everyone is getting one of these just for participation...

gawddamn liberal bias everywhere amiright?>/? EH, JOE?

 

[fishonjazz]

 

[franklin]

I played little league baseball when I was like 7 maybe. Everyone got at least a little plastic trophy. The winners got bigger better trophies. The people I hear bitch about this are around my same age and they act like things have just absolutely fallen apart "nowadays." Makes me wonder when "nowadays" started? Like 50 years ago?

People act like everyone is getting one of these just for participation...

Ones that size are reserved for the plastic mothers of 7 year old beauty pageant winners' collections. The rest of us got freaking blue ribbons.

 

[jimmy eat jazz]

It's funny to me that people mention the trophy thing so much. If there's a first world problem it's that someone thinks too mask kids are getting trophies.

And it's no doubt some dumb cliche, yet aother example of the older generation grumbling about the younger generation, which has reliably occured with every generation since caveman days.

I endured a lecture by my teabagger brother the other day about the Millenials are the most immoral generation, because . . . that's right SEX. Funny, that's what the WWII generation was saying about my brother's generation during the 60s. And this lecture on morality from a bother who as trustee of my parent's estate embezzled a couple of hundred thousand dollars to fund his get rich quick schemes, none of which, of course, ever came to fruition.

 

[Joe Bagadonuts]

How am I taking it too far? I haven't expressed an opinion on the subject. I said if you want kids to earn things, then stop giving them trophies for participating. It's the trophy-giver generation's fault. Yet they're the ones complaining.

Although they are part of the same generation, the trophy complainers and the trophy givers aren't the same people.

 

[One Brow]

You people... a time and place for everything.

Enjoy a flatter, crispier, usually tastier (but not always)cookie that spreads out? Use Butter.

Enjoy a cookie that rises up better, and more tender? Use Crisco.

Cookies don't rise. If your dough is room temperature, the Crisco cookie just melts a little slower.

The best solution is to use butter, and keep your dough close to refrigerator temperature. It will be tender, thick, crispy at the edges, and have the taste only butter can bring.

 

[Siro]

Obviously butter is the way to go. ****ing Crisco peasants!

 

[babe]

Yes, with Hillary (and with Trump, frankly) it's at least as much a personality/character thing for me as it is a policy thing. I won't get into all of my issues with Hillary but let's just say my dislike of her started with Travelgate and her disdain for stay-at-home mothers (I don't have time to look up the quote right now), and hasn't gotten any better since then with the more recent Bengazi and email scandals, and possible corruption involving the Clinton foundation.

As far as policies go, Trump and Hillary are roughly equidistant from my own views. If someone put a gun to my head and made me vote for one of the two, I'd pick Hillary, though. Her personality/character is less horrible than Trump's (in my opinion) and I at least know what her policies will be, which I can't say about Trump. Trump is much more the classic demagogue and who knows what he would do if he were to obtain power.

Hillary has devoted her whole life to politics. I think she's the inspiration for the Tracey character in "Election". Yes, she's been obsessed with it. She also wants to be a judge on the World Court someday.

She is absolutely the spawn of the Rockefeller-influenced Council on Foreign Relations, and she will absolutely dutifully follow the prescription for social progress.

Trump might also be a CFR man, behind all the bluster, and might do just as well for "The Club".

But "The Club" needs to reassess it's program right now. People don't want it. Well, let's say eighty percent of the American people don't want it. Fewer than ten percent even know what it is, but it's all they complain about day and night, without knowing the plan they don't like what they see happening.

Anyone who believes in human choice should be against the CFR. Probably less than five percent of Americans, if they understood it, would want it. Pretty much the college indoctrinated ideologues, that's it.

 

[babe]

So I'm both a progressive, and an ideologue who wants things to stay the same? Ooookay.

Also, your dumbass candidate will lose. Not enough "real people" (uninformed and uneducated elderly white men) to vote him into the office.

As always, rhetoric needs context. Words need definitions, too.

You are a pretty absolute materialist, you believe "Science" can properly only be applied to the material universe, and since other dimensions of existence have no vector in the plane of this dimension, you choose to ignore the mathematics that suggests there are other possibilities.

An ideologue is someone who believes in a system of ideas constructed in a certain way. You are an ideologue as a materialist.

Materialism is foundational to a number of political theories, including Marxism, Progressivism, Secular Humanism, and Fascism. All deny "God", the theory of of a sovereign all-powerful relevant ruler of the universe that applies some absolute set of moral values and executes judgment on the world. Without such a theory, we poor humans get to make up our own rules, and there is no one who can stop us if somehow we assert and maintain the necessary force of power.

A world managed by a super government staffed by hordes of very expert authorities on every possible issue, rather than on the will of humans possessed of innate rights including the right to displace governments in times of governmental bad behavior. .. . could be an oligarchy, or any form of statism. Marx at least theorized that governments would die someday in the hallowed twilight of errant humanity. . . . when we all become sufficiently evolved to not care about anything, and when the resources of the world would just assemble themselves into the stuff we need. yep. AI just might do all that work for us. lol.

I don't believe in fairy tales. I think you do.

The part where I see you wanting "things to stay the same" is as in under present global management. Which is fascist because it's corporate interests that are meaningful, and the little people really don't get meaningful votes for their government.

You might have a lot of ideas about how we can make things better. That's progressive. Progressivism today refers to a specific vision of progress that some very influential folks subscribe to and talk about in "The Club", and in general in various elite circles. I haven't seen you objecting to that vision.

 

[Stoked]

Lmfao at people not realizing that using some Crisco makes a better cookie.

It's like listening to poor people talk about being rich.

 

[moevillini]

As always, rhetoric needs context. Words need definitions, too.

You are a pretty absolute materialist, you believe "Science" can properly only be applied to the material universe, and since other dimensions of existence have no vector in the plane of this dimension, you choose to ignore the mathematics that suggests there are other possibilities.

An ideologue is someone who believes in a system of ideas constructed in a certain way. You are an ideologue as a materialist.

Materialism is foundational to a number of political theories, including Marxism, Progressivism, Secular Humanism, and Fascism. All deny "God", the theory of of a sovereign all-powerful relevant ruler of the universe that applies some absolute set of moral values and executes judgment on the world. Without such a theory, we poor humans get to make up our own rules, and there is no one who can stop us if somehow we assert and maintain the necessary force of power.

A world managed by a super government staffed by hordes of very expert authorities on every possible issue, rather than on the will of humans possessed of innate rights including the right to displace governments in times of governmental bad behavior. .. . could be an oligarchy, or any form of statism. Marx at least theorized that governments would die someday in the hallowed twilight of errant humanity. . . . when we all become sufficiently evolved to not care about anything, and when the resources of the world would just assemble themselves into the stuff we need. yep. AI just might do all that work for us. lol.

I don't believe in fairy tales. I think you do.

The part where I see you wanting "things to stay the same" is as in under present global management. Which is fascist because it's corporate interests that are meaningful, and the little people really don't get meaningful votes for their government.

You might have a lot of ideas about how we can make things better. That's progressive. Progressivism today refers to a specific vision of progress that some very influential folks subscribe to and talk about in "The Club", and in general in various elite circles. I haven't seen you objecting to that vision.

oh Babe, your posts often remind me of a cross between novels by Ayn Rand and Taylor Caldwell. Good stuff.