Never Trump

[babe]

Trump is a winner. I want a outsider who the GOP hates. Trump is the best candidate since Dukakis.

wasn't that the joke about Ducacis? People asked "What the Hell is a Dukadis?"

Actually, when you realize that Roger Stone is someone significant in the Trump camp, it's pretty certain Trump is not a Hillary/Bill ploy like Perot was in 1992. Trump is not only going to stay in this race, he's gonna make a name for himself as the man who dished it out to the RNC Rinos and wicked Hillary at the same time. He won't be the end of the Am/Brit fascism that is the New World Order, but he might give ordinary people a voice in their government once again.

Colton, if you have a shred of humanity or belief in constitutional law, this is about the best thing America has seen since Reagan. Sure, Trump is a bit shaky on that Constitutional Law idea, but he will be forced into that corner by the phony and corrupt Dems and Republicans. This is reason number 4 I've given you to vote for Trump.

 

[babe]

[MENTION=970]babe[/MENTION], you said, regarding Trump, that "he believes in doing logical things...." I have to question putting logical down as a characteristic of the man. His lack of logic can make my head spin. He hints that Obama is on the side of ISIS. The Washington Post says as much, and he revokes their press pass for "inaccuracy". He then finds a conspiracy theory, long debunked, and points to it as proof that Obama is on the side of ISIS. Which is what the Washington Post pointed out was Trump's position in the first place. So he "punishes" the Post(one of many news outlets who have had their press privlage so revoked by Trump) for being accurate, in other words.

I'm sorry, but logic of any form is not this man's strong suit. He is fully immersed in the world of conspiracy theories, which are one of the most dominant form of popular thought in America at this time in history. And, at their heart, most are quite illogical. I sometimes tell my friends that we are living in The Age of Conspiracy Theories. As such, the man is about as anti-intellectual as it gets. I caught a live feed of his rally in Dallas the other night and listened to the last 10-15 minutes of his talk. I was amazed, even at this point, at just how very, very stupid he sounded. He sounded like an absolute dope, and I asked myself once more, how on Earth did it get to this point? I believe, as long as he keeps talking, that he cannot possibly pull it off. 70% disapproval. Might be 90% by November 8th....

Okay, so maybe you are a sincere person trying to sort all this out. Game says he likes you, and Game is anything but an ideological campaigner for some cause.

Shall I go to the articles you reference and try to debunk those leftwing conspiracists? I could do that, but it would take some time for the facts to sink in, I'm sure.

I didn't say Trump has valid logic, or that he is right in his opinions, just that I see him as following a set of ideas he does have, which are inconsistent with the reports of the Washington Post and other news articles that aim to make Trump into a fascist or a Hitler or a deranged lunatic of any kind. I think he is just stupid, in a logical sort of way. But I also note that he has some pretty smart people in his camp who are possibly going to have some bearing on his future remarks and actions.

Stupid, a nice American sort of way, can be refreshing in a flood of progressive rants, which are not factual and if indeed clever are not virtuous.

 

[Boris]

Okay, so maybe you are a sincere person trying to sort all this out. Game says he likes you, and Game is anything but an ideological campaigner for some cause.

Shall I go to the articles you reference and try to debunk those leftwing conspiracists? I could do that, but it would take some time for the facts to sink in, I'm sure.

I didn't say Trump has valid logic, or that he is right in his opinions, just that I see him as following a set of ideas he does have, which are inconsistent with the reports of the Washington Post and other news articles that aim to make Trump into a fascist or a Hitler or a deranged lunatic of any kind. I think he is just stupid, in a logical sort of way. But I also note that he has some pretty smart people in his camp who are possibly going to have some bearing on his future remarks and actions.

Stupid, a nice American sort of way, can be refreshing in a flood of progressive rants, which are not factual and if indeed clever are not virtuous.

He is not stupid and he does not spout off crap. People like Red are caught up on sound bites they ignore his messages. He says build a border wall that is all they repeat and not how he welcomes Mexicans and wants immigration reform. You know what I bet you Trump towers and casinos are one of the largest Mexican American employers in the country. I am sure he really hates Mexicans

 

[fishonjazz]

Oh give me a break. Donald Trump praised Reagans amnesty deal with Tip O'neal and pledged to work with democrats to make great deals. That is why you establishment GOP and the conservatives hate him so much.

I actually hate him cause he is a pompous, idiotic, rude, crude, childish *******.

 

[Boris]

I actually hate him cause he is a pompous, idiotic, rude, crude, childish *******.

Assholes donate $102,000,000.00 and feel so much sympathy toward illegal immigrants that he employs them on purpose at his construction sites? There is documented evidence over 30 years that he is charitable and accepting of illegals. He is even right now employing many at his Washington post office luxury hotel conversion project.

The Donald is a loving caring genuine man and I hate that people use that against him or anyone. If you show any softness in this day and age people will eat you up for it. We are a ruthless society.

 

[fishonjazz]

Assholes donate $102,000,000.00 and feel so much sympathy toward illegal immigrants that he employs them on purpose at his construction sites? There is documented evidence over 30 years that he is charitable and accepting of illegals. He is even right now employing many at his Washington post office luxury hotel conversion project.

The Donald is a loving caring genuine man and I hate that people use that against him or anyone. If you show any softness in this day and age people will eat you up for it. We are a ruthless society.

Yep, still an *******. Assholes do nice things sometimes too. Still an *******.

 

[Gameface]

I actually hate him cause he is a pompous, idiotic, rude, crude, childish *******.

I would be embarrassed to have him as a guest at a dinner party, let alone have him be my President.

 

[babe]

He is not stupid and he does not spout off crap. People like Red are caught up on sound bites they ignore his messages. He says build a border wall that is all they repeat and not how he welcomes Mexicans and wants immigration reform. You know what I bet you Trump towers and casinos are one of the largest Mexican American employers in the country. I am sure he really hates Mexicans

There's this indefinable quality in your comments that seems designed to drive everyone nuts. Sloaned, some say.

Trump is a definite type A, alpha male personality. He makes his way by being unpredictable to his opponents. I'm sure he would hire illegals if it saved him a dollar, and I'm sure he'd make a deal with the Mexican Pres if it gave him something he needed. I don't think he's racist in the old sense of the word, meaning having a particular disregard for any class of people. He does love some kinds of green, that's about it.

Progressives camped out in our colleges today have a new definition of racist. It means anyone who is not a socialist, and particularly so if you are white, religious, or wealthy. You see, the brown races of equatorial earth never had to store nuts to get through a winter, so people did not claim property the way white Europeans did. Now, if you claim property, that means you're against the various tones of colored equatorial enlightened socialist cultures.

yah, I doubt many college profs or professional historians like Red who believe what the written words published by our propaganda/social change retailers have actually been to those third world cultures. Seems to me that the globalist/fascists cartelists corporatists got there already, and pretty much own those places.

Easy to sit in ivory-covered state-owned buildings and believe anything that's convenient to the agenda. Unless, somehow, the paychecks stop cashing.

 

[babe]

Having the patience with college to sit still and take in enough of the lore du jour to get two college degrees in History, would, in my estimation, define the classical nitwit who can't think for himself. To be actually proud of a college degree suggests a reliance on authority for one's self-image.

Being willing to believe the claptrap published by leftwing media retailers wholesale would have, in my day, suggested a lack of concern for truth and the inability to separate fact from fiction.

I confess to being on task to challenge settled opinions, and there aren't many folks here who want to apply that challenge constructively.

I know the fashionable trend of "history" in regard to McCarthyism. Funny how, during détente, evidence proved many of McCarthy's allegation essentially "true". But I get it, we shouldn't judge a bird by the flock he flies with. That's just not decent. Still, the facts do stand, case by case, in a high percentage, that the individuals were progressives with some fondness for communism. Take a few hours and re-watch "The Way We Were", starring Barbara Striesand. Yep, the way we were was we were commies. And most of our political reference is still framed in the same set of assumptions.

Hillary Clinton and Bernie Sanders are neo-Coms. We love a lot of the stuff Marx said.

 

[babe]

The UN/globalist elites are fond of all that commie Jazz. You could say they're real "Jazzfanzers". But the critical thing to see in it all is just this. The ideas are not used the same way on all classes of folks.

If you're one of the elites, your money is righteous, deserved, and blessed. If you're not, you need to give it to them so they can pass it around to their friends, and claim they're helping the poor.

That's the kind of sincerity that gave my bud who was not a state socialist but a true communist all the twists in his shorts. Those elites are phonies, and they're just saying stuff to deceive the rest of us and enrich themselves.

Yep, that fits Hillary and Bernie all right.

Is Trump any different? I really don't think so, but he has chosen a different class of electorate to speak to, the Americans who just want the old America to come back, with equal justice under the law.

 

[JimLes]

the Americans who just want the old America to come back, with equal justice under the law.

I must've missed the existence of this America somewhere.

 

[Boris]

Yep, still an *******. Assholes do nice things sometimes too. Still an *******.

you mean nice things like creating jobs for thousands and targeting jobs towards the poorest? Yep he is such a *******. I am glad u can judge such a philanthropist and are next president.