Never Trump
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OK, I'm as anti-Trump as anyone, but even I can see that he's not advocating the assassination of Hillary. It's an exaggerated stance about her statement on gun control. He's making the point that "why is it fair for her to be protected by guns, and not for Joe Regular Person?"
Hillary wants to ban all guns. Period. She does not outright say it but she will try to put us further down that path. Just like when are current Traitor In Chief tried to put $5 tax on every bullet purchased.
I do not believe anything that comes out of that liers mouth an neither should you, Colton, or Mr. Trump.
You need to come out of your University cubby hole a little more.
Donald Trump does not fact check before talking, and he speaks mostly for effect in his stage presence projection sort of manner, but he is no hypocrite. He is what he is, and he owns it very well. People can count on him to lead America with American values put up front, even if he runs with a globalist sort of world. He would not take us out of the UN, he would make US interests important to the UN. He would not cut any players out of the deal, but nobody would be getting favors at our expense. He thinks he is American, and he wants Americans to have opportunity. He is in some respects like JFK, in that he is just not "owned" by anyone and he really intends to put our policies on a better footing and get a better deal.
He is a different kind of "liar" if you can even rightly claim that. Hillary lies because what she is going to do is favor her in-crowd and cut us out of the deal. Trump doesn't need to do that. He has a whole different motive for any disingenuous statement, for him it's about getting a better deal, in his estimate of what that means.
I don't see any Hitler in Trump, no real sociopath, just someone who has made it his style of leadership to talk loose and disarm the other folks at the table with his style, while actually keeping pretty close track of what the deal is going to be.
Smart, in a sorta charming way..... even with his political uncorrectness. The reason you don't need to be so afraid of him is that he is not committed to his banter, and he's looking you in the face figuring what it'll take to bring you around. Actually being interested in the other guy is not a sociopath diagnostic.
How do you know this? There is no way to know what kind of politician he will be because there is no precedent. But he has decades of proof of this "persona" he has created that you think he will easily shed. No proof of that beyond your wishful thinking.
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But that's what the shock jock radio guys babe worships say, it must be true. They would never lie or make stuff up, they tell it like it is. Your just brain washed by the lying liberal media and all the main stream agenda. You don't want to know the truth, you can't handle it!
Babe has almost convinced me to vote for Hillary instead of Stein.
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Yeah, I see it totally differently.
Donald Trump does not fact check before talking, I agree with that. But I see him as a fairly classic demagogue, saying whatever he thinks he needs to in order to win people over. Not because he believes it. That's why his stories change constantly, and why no one actually knows what his policies will be. And that's every bit as much of a liar as Mrs. Clinton. And every bit as dangerous to the country.
Yeah, I agree he's not Hitler. "Disarming", though? Nah, not even close. "Keeping close track of what the deal is going to be"? Nope, not that either.
No, not smart at all. Just gifted in his ability to make some people believe him.
Being interested in the other guy? No, I don't think so. Not sincerely, anyway. Only as interested as it's going to take for him to get what he wants.
I hope I'm wrong about him, should he win the election.
But which one needs to come out of our cubby hole? To me it seems like you're the one living in Neverland. I guess we'll find out if he wins.
I've been looking at Trump videos going back ten years. I just linked an article that substantially corroborates this view in another thread, which gave a quote from Larry King where Trump discussed his view of politics and idea of running for Pres.
But hey, people change.......sometimes..... sometimes they even change for the better.
No, I'm just trying to be realistic in my appraisal, just looking for indicators of what moves Trump and why he does stuff. The guy likes to win. Little chance he'll be a loser Pres.
Fair enough.