Never Trump

[babe]

But that's what the shock jock radio guys babe worships say, it must be true. They would never lie or make stuff up, they tell it like it is. Your just brain washed by the lying liberal media and all the main stream agenda. You don't want to know the truth, you can't handle it!

Not much worship here.

Oh, anybody who has something to say, maybe.

Here's how it shakes out when I see a rabid little bite like your's: Lots of people have their crutches, intellectually speaking. Comfort zones. Someone who just doesn't go along with it generates reflexive disconnects, hate maybe, ridicule, trite little insults for sure.

If you had some kind of information I haven't gone over, I'd think it useful to carry on the conversation.

 

[franklin]

Seems like a fair characterization to me. Both campaigns have specialized in over-exagerating about their opponent in a negative way. Seems that they have each reached the conclusion that the only way they can win is to drive the other side's negatives into the dirt, preferably by making voters believe that a vote for the opposition will bring about the end of humanity. It seems to be working. As a result anybody anywhere near the middle is faced with a despicable choice.

"Yes, I'm stuck in the middle with you,
And I'm wondering what it is I should do
It's so hard to keep this smile from my face,
Losing control, and I'm all over the place

Clowns to the left of me, jokers to the right,
Here I am, stuck in the middle with you"

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DohRa9lsx0Q

 

[Ron Mexico]

Not much worship here.

Oh, anybody who has something to say, maybe.

Here's how it shakes out when I see a rabid little bite like your's: Lots of people have their crutches, intellectually speaking. Comfort zones. Someone who just doesn't go along with it generates reflexive disconnects, hate maybe, ridicule, trite little insults for sure.

If you had some kind of information I haven't gone over, I'd think it useful to carry on the conversation.

So you dont worship much just anyone that has something to say?

Thanks, Ill stick to making jokes and laughing to myself on a sports message board discussion about politics in the off-season. Maybe i'm just like your buddy Trump, who prefers to make fun of people and doesn't have anything real to say or maybe Ill save the serious conversations for people with solid info and sources that speak in a non belittling fashion to others while claiming mental superiority but just regurgitating non substantiated info from shock jocks on Patriot Radio or the likes, sorry I mean free thinkers... I definitely don't have comfort zones. I change my mind constantly on issues. But i would rather stick to "real" conversations with the other people. There is plenty of information you havent gone over but your "opinions" are pretty set, so that seems like a fruitless endeavor. But that is almost always the case of internet discussions on anything remotely serious. Ill let you carry on with telling us how Clinton and Obama are communists because a couple policies overlap or the CIA was the bombers in the Boston Marathon. Sorry for the rapid bite, thought your skin was thick based on the drivel you have posted.

 

[babe]

So you dont worship much just anyone that has something to say?

Thanks, Ill stick to making jokes and laughing to myself on a sports message board discussion about politics in the off-season. Maybe i'm just like your buddy Trump, who prefers to make fun of people and doesn't have anything real to say or maybe Ill save the serious conversations for people with solid info and sources that speak in a non belittling fashion to others while claiming mental superiority but just regurgitating non substantiated info from shock jocks on Patriot Radio or the likes, sorry I mean free thinkers... I definitely don't have comfort zones. I change my mind constantly on issues. But i would rather stick to "real" conversations with the other people. There is plenty of information you havent gone over but your "opinions" are pretty set, so that seems like a fruitless endeavor. But that is almost always the case of internet discussions on anything remotely serious. Ill let you carry on with telling us how Clinton and Obama are communists because a couple policies overlap or the CIA was the bombers in the Boston Marathon. Sorry for the rapid bite, thought your skin was thick based on the drivel you have posted.

the word was "rabid", as in the product of fevered mind beyond the reach of good sense. You miss the sense of intelligence generally perhaps, but to say I worship people I listen to is a bit of a stretch, and to say I'm only listening to a neat little category of folks you can dismiss with a smear is pretty much rabid.

If I found someone, anyone, who could say something that really moved me to worship, it'd be kinda unusual, and maybe I would. But I don't think I've ever put up a quote from anyone with that kind of devotion, and you're way off from having a decent civil discussion here.

So, yes, maybe you have a fever. Who knows.

Communism doesn't have a real authoritative doctrinal source, and a lot of the ideas have come from other places in the first place, and today are found in a variety of political divisions. The things I mark as "communist" are the notion of a pre-determined dialectic moving human history toward a vision of a world characterized by equality among humans in social and economic parametrs. People who justify a graduated income tax, or taxation of business and tax relief for the low wage workers, minimum wage mandates, government provided health and education, and a lot of other things Marx talked about can fairly be called "communist". The word means a believer in a community in some respect. The first pilgrims to land in Massachussetts were communists, and so were early Mormons, and a number of other social experiments over 150 years ago.

today it might mean a supporter of another government like Cuba, Venezuela, or whatever. Technically speaking the Russians are no longer "communists' per se, neither are the Chinese. Fascist is a more accurate term for folks whose real aim is to build a statist system with elite rule.

While Obama and Hillary have professed a lot of communist ideological beliefs, the record proves they are fascists, really.

 

[Ron Mexico]

the word was "rabid", as in the product of fevered mind beyond the reach of good sense. You miss the sense of intelligence generally perhaps, but to say I worship people I listen to is a bit of a stretch, and to say I'm only listening to a neat little category of folks you can dismiss with a smear is pretty much rabid.

If I found someone, anyone, who could say something that really moved me to worship, it'd be kinda unusual, and maybe I would. But I don't think I've ever put up a quote from anyone with that kind of devotion, and you're way off from having a decent civil discussion here.

So, yes, maybe you have a fever. Who knows.

Communism doesn't have a real authoritative doctrinal source, and a lot of the ideas have come from other places in the first place, and today are found in a variety of political divisions. The things I mark as "communist" are the notion of a pre-determined dialectic moving human history toward a vision of a world characterized by equality among humans in social and economic parametrs. People who justify a graduated income tax, or taxation of business and tax relief for the low wage workers, minimum wage mandates, government provided health and education, and a lot of other things Marx talked about can fairly be called "communist". The word means a believer in a community in some respect. The first pilgrims to land in Massachussetts were communists, and so were early Mormons, and a number of other social experiments over 150 years ago.

today it might mean a supporter of another government like Cuba, Venezuela, or whatever. Technically speaking the Russians are no longer "communists' per se, neither are the Chinese. Fascist is a more accurate term for folks whose real aim is to build a statist system with elite rule.

While Obama and Hillary have professed a lot of communist ideological beliefs, the record proves they are fascists, really.

Thanks for providing a good example and proving my point.

I guess it is semantics of the word worship. I suppose that is too extreme of a description ill try adhere to, follow, believe, your main source... anything else. Yes, I guess you win, I am rapid and lacking intelligence, solid argument and way to prove your smarter because your a "free thinker." Name calling, trying to belittle people and claiming your own intelligence is always effective communication for changing minds, its working for Trump why not you. I wonder why people wouldn't want to have a real discussion with that and prefer to make jokes. Oh sorry for quoting you for calling Obama and Clinton (wonder why you use his last name and her first name...) communists and not what you meant to say, fascists. But I guess you got them and proved to the world they are secret fascists trying to corrupt and ruin this world for their own benefit! That is what we need more of in political conversations calling the other candidates evil, fascists, communists and other words to dehumanize them and make your side seem good and theirs seem bad. I think both candidates have their flaws (as does everyone) but both are out to try and make this country better in their own way. The differences in how they get there, why and trying to understand both sides of the argument is where the discussions should lie but some prefer to stick to the demonizing venomous politics. There is nothing to say to those people except make some jokes and have a laugh.

 

[babe]

Well, Bronc, as long as you restate whatever I say into what you want it to be, you get to call all the shots and define it for your own satisfaction.

Not very many people really understand politics, even professorial types like Red have a deep sense of historical vindication for what they think, and gold ol boys like Game probably know all they want to know.

OK, in my my view, Marxism was a contrived ploy form the outset to serve as tool for manipulation on the world stage. Some people really believed it, others used them and it to evey advantage. In the long run, it continues to be a tool for manipulation.

Who has the power or influence to "manipulate" world politics? Well, nobody really, except when you have to invent a tool like that it proves you're worried about how to control large numbers of people.

In my opinion, the ideals of communism are pretty understandable at first. People want a community, fairness, equality, and economic justice, all that stuff. There's this horrible reality all around of the opoosities.

The real threat to elitism and top-down control has been the principles of the American founders who sought to lift up actual human rights and limit government.

All kinds of people want to exercise beneficial control for whatever reasons. today's UN brand of fascism has a lot of high ideals and some good manager types working the best they can to make things better.

The whole world does not revolve around academic definitions in politics.

 

[Ron Mexico]

Not very many people really understand politics even professorial types like Red have a deep sense of historical vindication for what they think, and gold ol boys like Game probably know all they want to know.

Yep, its down to you and your Patriot radio buddies as the last line of truth and knowledge of politics that the rest of us are missing. Preach on, we are all ears to your vast and overwhelming superior knowledge. None of us know what we are saying unless it agrees with you right?

Or do you have peers on here that disagree with you but are as smart or smarter than you, at least in politics?

 

[Dr. Jones]

Y'all can eat a dick. In fact, you'll need like a bushel of dicks for eating.

Both candidates are awful.

But this hyperbolic ******** that you're spewing... I wish your dads were alive or at least still able to smack you in the ****ing mouth.

Rise up as Americans and plop your mini-van driving, titleist wearing, dad bods over in the booth where you belong. Pull the lever for whomever you want but shut the **** up with the most asinine rhetoric ever muttered in the history of Joseph smith.

 

[Gameface]

One of the candidates is just fine

 

[Gameface]

Y'all can eat a dick. In fact, you'll need like a bushel of dicks for eating.

Both candidates are awful.

But this hyperbolic ******** that you're spewing... I wish your dads were alive or at least still able to smack you in the ****ing mouth.

Rise up as Americans and plop your mini-van driving, titleist wearing, dad bods over in the booth where you belong. Pull the lever for whomever you want but shut the **** up with the most asinine rhetoric ever muttered in the history of Joseph smith.

 

[Dr. Jones]

One of the candidates is just fine

I've read plenty of you saying that and it's not persuaded me a bit. In fact, you are the single only human I know that thinks she's "fine."

Either this is an epic frank-like troll bit, or you're just REALLY determined to live out a schtik.

 

[Dr. Jones]

Out...

I've never seen such epic fails (both sides of the argument) in my lifetime.
Lol

Horrible y'all.