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Nikola Mirotic

I've really soured on the Zinger. I'm curious about his mental makeup (opposite Mitchell?) and for a guy his size pulling down as few rebounds as he is is almost a travesty. I like Davis, though.

Mirotic FTW.
He is still elite at catch-and-shoot threes and rim-protection. In other words, he's very literally one-of-a-kind. He's miscast as a primary, off-the-dribble midrange scorer, but the Knicks have few options and he's most of the gameplan for the opposing team.

The offense and defense with Rudy and Porzingis would be insane. Porzingis is also your backup 5.
 
I'm not worried about DL. I just hope he's not pressured into stupid deals because the fans are calling for it.


I'd love Mirotic on our team, but there's NO WAY I'd part with our 1st rounder for him. NO. WAY.

Why not? Let’s assume you make a solid pick. How long for him to develop and really contribute? I would say 4 years. So that is wasting 3 great years of Rudy and dm. Rudy is in his prime and dm will improve but is already set to lead a team a long way. I am fully behind getting a good vet right now to contribute instantly and Moro looks like a good fit.


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He is still elite at catch-and-shoot threes and rim-protection. In other words, he's very literally one-of-a-kind. He's miscast as a primary, off-the-dribble midrange scorer, but the Knicks have few options and he's most of the gameplan for the opposing team.

The offense and defense with Rudy and Porzingis would be insane. Porzingis is also your backup 5.

And he isn't even 23 yet.
 
Why not? Let’s assume you make a solid pick. How long for him to develop and really contribute? I would say 4 years. So that is wasting 3 great years of Rudy and dm. Rudy is in his prime and dm will improve but is already set to lead a team a long way. I am fully behind getting a good vet right now to contribute instantly and Moro looks like a good fit.

If it is a solid pick they probably will contribute much earlier than 4 years in and also first-round picks offer the best bang for your buck and control with at least 4, and usually 8 years under team control. In the Mirotic situation, you don't need to sacrifice a pick now for him because 1 it certainly won't put you over the top and 2 you can use that pick AND get Mirotic in FA after next season because rookie-scale deals are so relatively cheap.

A first-round pick is a solid no, unless the Jazz were to put some insane protections on it.
 
If it is a solid pick they probably will contribute much earlier than 4 years in and also first-round picks offer the best bang for your buck and control with at least 4, and usually 8 years under team control. In the Mirotic situation, you don't need to sacrifice a pick now for him because 1 it certainly won't put you over the top and 2 you can use that pick AND get Mirotic in FA after next season because rookie-scale deals are so relatively cheap.

A first-round pick is a solid no, unless the Jazz were to put some insane protections on it.

Lot of ifs in your equation that may never pan out. Could draft another lyles . How long did it take for Hayward to get there? 6 years? Go for something solid now I say. The future is now. Max out for Rudy and Mitchell.


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Lot of ifs in your equation that may never pan out. Could draft another lyles . How long did it take for Hayward to get there? 6 years? Go for something solid now I say. The future is now. Max out for Rudy and Mitchell.


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Even if the pick is a dud it is better asset management because of the reasons I stated. Impatience turns you into the Brooklyn Nets.
 
Why not? Let’s assume you make a solid pick. How long for him to develop and really contribute? I would say 4 years. So that is wasting 3 great years of Rudy and dm. Rudy is in his prime and dm will improve but is already set to lead a team a long way. I am fully behind getting a good vet right now to contribute instantly and Moro looks like a good fit.


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Um, you've heard of a guy called Donovan Mitchell right? How long did it take him to develop? 4 years? More like 4 months!
 
Um, you've heard of a guy called Donovan Mitchell right? How long did it take him to develop? 4 years? More like 4 months!

and that's how many draft picks that achieve that kind of development ??

i'm ok with a lottery protected 1st for Mirotic. How many picks in 14-15 range end up being 6-10 dudes who can space the floor and positively contribute to winning ?

this could also be just feeling compulsive and wanting to see SOMETHING happen. I'll be so bummed if we end up sitting on our hands again
 
Lot of ifs in your equation that may never pan out. Could draft another lyles . How long did it take for Hayward to get there? 6 years? Go for something solid now I say. The future is now. Max out for Rudy and Mitchell.
I think it’s a stigma thing. We traded for Hill and it was a one year thing. Still worth it, I’d say, but a lot of people aren’t happy. Then we traded a pick for Rubio and we saw how it worked out. So trading a pick for an established player has an icky stigma, and people are expecting more diamonds in the rough as if they’re almost a given at this point. It would be silly for DL to look at the Mitchell deal and think to himself “Aw, shucks. I already traded two assets for a guard in Trey Burke and missed out on Giannis. Lesson learned.” and then hung up the phone on Denver.
 
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