Nikola Mirotic

[Handlogten's Heros]

http://www.spotrac.com/nba/new-orleans-pelicans/omer-asik-7110/

Is this wrong? It says he is owed 11 million next year and only 3 million guaranteed in 2019.

See my reply below... I use basketball insiders and assumed it was a PO because of color coding.

 

[Saint Cy of JFC]

My bad... I use baskeball insiders and thought it was a blue player option.

It's still terrible because Asik is terrible... it's not Mozgov or Deng terrible though.

Yeah, but if they Jazz arent trying to sign anyone in 2018, why does it matter?

Take into account Burks is owed 10 million next year. So basically the Jazz would just be taking on additional 6 million to get a 1st rounder.

 

[Handlogten's Heros]

The deal would need to be Thabo/JJ for Asik/Ajinca for a 1st... I'd do it.

 

[Saint Cy of JFC]

Yeah, but wouldn't you have to give up Johnson or Favors rather than Burks?

Yeah, I'd imagine so, in which case the Jazz probably couldnt do it as that would probably put them in the LT next year after signing Exum and Hood.

But under Lopo's assumption they actually want Burks, it's a no-brainer to take on both for that 1st.

 

[Handlogten's Heros]

Yeah, but if they Jazz arent trying to sign anyone in 2018, why does it matter?

Take into account Burks is owed 10 million next year. So basically the Jazz would just be taking on additional 6 million to get a 1st rounder.

Yeah we would do it with zero second thoughts. I'm with Cy here.

The bigger question is would we do the Thabo/JJ deal... because they would not do the AB deal in my mind. AB is actually like 11.5 next year I think

 

[Saint Cy of JFC]

The deal would need to be Thabo/JJ for Asik/Ajinca for a 1st... I'd do it.

I dont think the Jazz could do that.

They would still have Burks 10 million next year, and it would put them in a dangerous LT situation depending on what Exum and Hood get paid.

 

[infection]

Yeah we would do it with zero second thoughts. I'm with Cy here.

The bigger question is would we do the Thabo/JJ deal... because they would not do the AB deal in my mind. AB is actually like 11.5 next year I think

Send out Johnson but keep Thabo. I really wouldn't want to trade Thabo for what we'd get in return.

 

[Saint Cy of JFC]

Send out Johnson but keep Thabo. I really wouldn't want to trade Thabo for what we'd get in return.

Thabo would be cut next year if we did this trade and kept him. If Utah takes on 16 million next year and doesnt find a trade for Burks or Rubio, then they would probably have to cut Udoh/Thabo/Jonas just to save money (again depending on the Hood/Exum thing).

 

[LoPo]

Cy is right about our possible luxury situation if we took Ajinca AND Asik. However, I don't see us doing that. Maybe Asik and their first for Burks. I'd probably do that. I wish we knew more about how much Asik is owed from that non-guarantee in 2019-20.

 

[Handlogten's Heros]

I dont think the Jazz could do that.

They would still have Burks 10 million next year, and it would put them in a dangerous LT situation depending on what Exum and Hood get paid.

I agree some other salary cap maneuvers would be needed, but I am also not sure we are keeping Hood in trade or FA if he gets a big offer.

 

[infection]

Thabo would be cut next year if we did this trade and kept him. If Utah takes on 16 million next year and doesnt find a trade for Burks or Rubio, then they would probably have to cut Udoh/Thabo/Jonas just to save money (again depending on the Hood/Exum thing).

I don't know that much about the cap situation under different hypotheticals, but I'd find it hard to believe the FO would put us in a situation where we'd have to cut good guys on really good contracts.

 

[Handlogten's Heros]

Cy is right about our possible luxury situation if we took Ajinca AND Asik. However, I don't see us doing that. Maybe Asik and their first for Burks. I'd probably do that. I wish we knew more about how much Asik is owed from that non-guarantee in 2019-20.

Cy was right... its $3m