jom2003
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we should have been number 1 in the league for both offense and defense after blowing out those teams by 30 per game. so I would say we really have been underperforming in those ortg/drtg categories
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Okay, but the Jazz have had a tougher schedule than Golden State, Phoenix and Brooklyn, as well as a bunch of other teams, and that's who we're measuring against.
jom2003
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and what are those teams org/drtg stats, mind if i ask?
and keep in mind we played Bucks/sixers/Hawks, the supposedly "good teams" that were missing half of their starters, so we really should be crushing them by 30 a game too
Things like NetRtg and SRS have always been better indicators than W/L, but the regular season becomes less important every year. I don't feel much differently about this year's team, maybe a little bit better because Gay looks great so far, but they are certainly not as fun to watch with their persistent whining and lack of effort on a night to night basis.
Yeah, I know. But other teams like the Warriors, Suns, Nets, etc. also played the Sixers without Embiid, the Nuggets without Jokic, and the Bucks without Middleton. So it's apples-to-apples.
Top 5 Offenses: Jazz, Warriors, Hawks, Blazers, Sixers
Top 5 Defenses: Warriors, Clippers, Suns, Heat, Bulls, Nets/Jazz
Warriors' schedule has included: Kings, Thunder (twice), Pels, Pistons, Rockets, Sixers (no Embiid), Cavs, Raptors, Lakers. Plus, 9 of their first 12 games were at home with no B2Bs.
Last year, the Jazz had the best record in the league for pretty much the whole season. Then by the playoffs the Jazz had two key injuries, they were out of rhythm, and the playoff seedings were thrown off by the Lakers and teams trying to avoid matching up with the Lakers. So you're right that the reg. season doesn't mean much. Definitely have to take that with a grain of salt.
Also, the Jazz had wins against Memphis and NOLA in the bag before the refs made bone-headed calls that cost the Jazz key points or a key possession. Jazz should really be 15-5, same as last year.
Jazzmix
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You're talking like we live in nba2k. In real life every game in NBA requires effort, some of those theoretically weaker young teams always play with a lot of energy to start the season. Sometimes shorthanded teams play without any pressure and make surprises against contenders. Jazz always start slow so let's be realistic with expectations.
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Yeah with that lineup we should have been runway first in both categories easy.
jom2003
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i agree. that's why i mentioned in another Pels thread earlier that we had a similar slow start to the season in 2019 and we ended up being just fine. but the offensive/defensive ratings don't really mean much until the end of the season when every team has had a chance to play one another.
Yes. Compiled by a computer and they also miss a lot of plays. For instance, last night’s only showed like one or two of Gay’s threes, and it didn’t show the Conley sequence where he made the shot then stole the inbound and hit a three.