Official trade Exum and/or Bradley into cap space thread

[Ron Mexico]

He underachieved as a rookie , you are making statements with your heart and not your brain. He is a bust

He struggled to do much on offense. But again he was elite on defense, which is half the game. There is a reason we played so well with him starting at that time. Our team won a lot with him. Then he went down and we didnt win as much the next year.

But it does not really matter. You are convinced he is a bust and I dont see that. The FO and coaches believe in him as well so I trust them. He should have a good year if healthy.

 

[Deleted member 365]

But sure, Snyder hates Exum and would prefer to hinder the team's success just to stick it to him and Exum is totally the Harden stopper and stuff.

We've been hearing the same nonsense for 5 years now.

Sigh

 

[Handlogten's Heros]

We won't bring in either Morris... they don't have that Jazz DNA we covet.

 

[416Klawzz]

He struggled to do much on offense. But again he was elite on defense, which is half the game. There is a reason we played so well with him starting at that time. Our team won a lot with him. Then he went down and we didnt win as much the next year.

But it does not really matter. You are convinced he is a bust and I dont see that. The FO and coaches believe in him as well so I trust them. He should have a good year if healthy.

Let me ask you this ... Do you feel that it's enough for a lottery pick to only be good at defense ? Suck at shooting ? Bricks open layups and is very nervous running an Offense ? Dante is still all of these so that's why I think he is a bust. As I said earlier front office is hoping and praying he pans out because he was a mistake both by being drafted and then extending him

 

[jumpin bean]

This is pretty much what I'm thinking. Someone had said that Morris has been the best defender against LeBron for the past 2-3 years.

Morrris is only behind Leonard as the best defender against LEbron in the past 5 seasons

 

[Ron Mexico]

Cool Story.

Exum was historically horrible as a rookie.

https://bleacherreport.com/articles/2488602-how-dante-exum-can-bounce-back-from-rough-rookie-season



He was a complete embarrassment and liability on the offensive end. I really don't care about his defense. Perimeter defense in this league is super overrated. Especially when you factor in his offense. You can't win in today's league with a guard as abysmal on offense as Exum. Since his rookie year he's maintained his ghost status on offense and routinely gets hurt before Christmas. If we can unload him for a 2nd round pick let alone a decent player, you do it. If the NBA had 6 rounds, like the NFL, I'd unload him for a 6th round pick. The sooner we get him off this roster and replace him with a productive player, the better.

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Sure, those are stats from the offense perspective, he was really young and in experience. He was smart to not try and do much except get the ball into the playmakers hands quickly and get out of the way on that end of the court, that is why the stats you posted show him that low. He played elite defense though which is not accounted for in your stats, our team played elite defense with him and we won a lot of games during that stretch. Exum then went down in the off season and missed the next year and our team was worse the next year than we were with Exum starting. Those things matter.

 

[Deleted member 365]

We won't bring in either Morris... they don't have that Jazz DNA we covet.

And what's that? What is the "Jazz DNA?"

Morris plays good defense, is awesome at hitting perimeter shots, plays the 4, and plays damn hard.

I'm not sure what people mean anymore by "Jazz DNA."

 

[416Klawzz]

Sure, those are stats from the offense perspective, he was really young and in experience. He was smart to not try and do much except get the ball into the playmakers hands quickly and get out of the way on that end of the court, that is why the stats you posted show him that low. He played elite defense though which is not accounted for in your stats, our team played elite defense with him and we won a lot of games during that stretch. Exum then went down in the off season and missed the next year and our team was worse the next year than we were with Exum starting. Those things matter.

If you are a lottery pick you can't suck at offense only late 1st rounders and 2nd rounders can get away with being one dimensional. Dante sucks come to terms with it geez

 

[RandyForRubio]

Exum isn't getting traded, and right now would be an awful time to trade him, value wise.

He's still a guy with great speed and size, who can guard 1-3 quite well. The Jazz aren't going to give up on him yet. A wing defender of his caliber will be more important in the playoffs than Jamychal Green.

 

[jom2003]

The thing with Exum is that if we don't deal him away before next summer we might lose Royce when his deal expires

 

[Ron Mexico]

Let me ask you this ... Do you feel that it's enough for a lottery pick to only be good at defense ? Suck at shooting ? Bricks open layups and is very nervous running an Offense ? Dante is still all of these so that's why I think he is a bust. As I said earlier front office is hoping and praying he pans out because he was a mistake both by being drafted and then extending him

I dont really care where he was drafted at. He was always going to be a huge project that took awhile to develop. I know you and others wanted him to be much better quickly but the team did not expect that, they knew he was a long term project. That project got set back even further by injuries.

Exum was those things before, you are talking about stuff from his rookie year when he was just out of high school. But last year he looked good running the offense and was not nervous. He was great in the pick and roll the last 2 years at a very high level. He has shown that he is an elite defender, he is elite at getting to the rim, and can be elite as the ball handler in the pick and roll. He needs to get better at finish (although he started to show this) to be a really good roll player. I think he is already at that level when healthy. If he can start to shoot consistently then I think he is going to be really good. I am not sure if he will pick this up though.

The Front Office isnt just hoping and praying because they dont want to admit they made a mistake. They see the potential in him and really like him as a player going forward. They have expressed frustration over the injuries setting him back but everyone still believes he is going to be good, that is why they are keeping him.

 

[Handlogten's Heros]

And what's that? What is the "Jazz DNA?"

Morris plays good defense, is awesome at hitting perimeter shots, plays the 4, and plays damn hard.

I'm not sure what people mean anymore by "Jazz DNA."

I think it means guys who don’t jump guys and curb stomp them. They’ve had some off the court stuff. Maybe it was just one occasion but that’s what I mean.