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jazzman12 said:
Just read a great write-up on Morgan Scalley. Man, I'm just so giddy about the present and future of this program. I dunno if other Ute fans feel the same way but I feel like we're on the cusp of something bigger.

There's just something in the air fellas.
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Not gonna lie... I feel it too. And even being self-critical and making sure I'm not wearing rose-colored glasses.

It just seems to me like Kyle is grooming Scalley as the heir apparent. From everything I've read he would be an amazing successor. But I'm still hoping that Kyle coaches until he's 80.
 
leftyjace said:
Not gonna lie... I feel it too. And even being self-critical and making sure I'm not wearing rose-colored glasses.

It just seems to me like Kyle is grooming Scalley as the heir apparent. From everything I've read he would be an amazing successor. But I'm still hoping that Kyle coaches until he's 80.
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Like you, I'd like to see Kyle here for a long, long time. My one caveat to that is that it does trouble me how badly he and his staff have struggled to develop QB's. I know people are psyched with what we're hearing about Troy Williams but every year at this time, we're always talking about how the passing game is going to be better than the previous year.

I feel like Whitt missed a chance this offseason when he didn't go out and get an honest-to-goodness QB coach with NFL experience. IMO, if you're going to be a "Defense wins games" type of coach, at least get a specialist in here to work with your QB's to further their learning curve and technique. Let's be brutally honest: If Whitt ever learns how to get out of his own way in regards to "The throw game", this program is in the top 10 conversation yearly.

In regards to Scalley, it's my dream scenario that he replaces Whitt when it comes time. There's probably not one coach in Utah (including HC's) that can touch Scalley's ability to connect with in-state recruits. As much as I liked BYU's hiring of Sitake, I'm not afraid of him out-recruiting Utah. Yes, he'll only improve their connect with Poly kids but Utah's ties with the Poly community are stronger than ever. However, if/when Morgan gets an HC job (especially if it's out west), I'll be shaking in my shoes. That guy will be poaching Utah kids left and right from all of the in-state schools.
 
So, let's go worst case scenario for Utah. Let's say that Williams is a TO prone QB ala Wilson and we can't do much with him. How do we fare?

Wins: SUU, SJSU, BYU, OSU, Cal, ASU. Our defense is just too good for those teams.

Losses: USC, UCLA, Oregon, some other team.

Toss up games: Washington, Arizona, Colorado. Let's say we go 1-2 or 2-1.

That puts our record at 4-5 losses. I'm not sure I see five losses. I think Utah's worst case scenario is 4 losses this year.

Also, before the BYU guys chime in here, I do think BYU will be tough, but our defense is just too good. Your OL is starting FCS kids. Your WR's are all new. We get you the second game of the year and we have a scrimmage the week before and you have a real game.

Also, our secondary is just too good. We can go man defense on islands with 4 CB's (Domo, Porter, Thomas, Allen). That means if we can get pressure with 4 down linemen (and we will be able to), then we have 3 players that have no real responsibilities. And one of those players is Chase Hansen, who is Hill's physical equal. One of those players is Marcus Williams, who is the #1 FS in the country in the 2018 NFL draft. Then add in a smart linebacker in Tauteoli. We will be just fine vs Hill. We held him in check when our spy was Quade Chappuis. I think Hansen can do just as well if not better.

We are just better than BYU. Oh, and that doesn't include BYU missing Kaufusi, who was a one man wrecking ball vs Utah last year. Oh, and we won't be starting QB's at WR either (although it looks like Kendall Thompson might be one hell of a WR).
 
green said:
So, let's go worst case scenario for Utah. Let's say that Williams is a TO prone QB ala Wilson and we can't do much with him. How do we fare?

Wins: SUU, SJSU, BYU, OSU, Cal, ASU. Our defense is just too good for those teams.

Losses: USC, UCLA, Oregon, some other team.

Toss up games: Washington, Arizona, Colorado. Let's say we go 1-2 or 2-1.

That puts our record at 4-5 losses. I'm not sure I see five losses. I think Utah's worst case scenario is 4 losses this year.

Also, before the BYU guys chime in here, I do think BYU will be tough, but our defense is just too good. Your OL is starting FCS kids. Your WR's are all new. We get you the second game of the year and we have a scrimmage the week before and you have a real game.

Also, our secondary is just too good. We can go man defense on islands with 4 CB's (Domo, Porter, Thomas, Allen). That means if we can get pressure with 4 down linemen (and we will be able to), then we have 3 players that have no real responsibilities. And one of those players is Chase Hansen, who is Hill's physical equal. One of those players is Marcus Williams, who is the #1 FS in the country in the 2018 NFL draft. Then add in a smart linebacker in Tauteoli. We will be just fine vs Hill. We held him in check when our spy was Quade Chappuis. I think Hansen can do just as well if not better.

We are just better than BYU. Oh, and that doesn't include BYU missing Kaufusi, who was a one man wrecking ball vs Utah last year. Oh, and we won't be starting QB's at WR either (although it looks like Kendall Thompson might be one hell of a WR).
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Ludicrous to think at ASU is an automatic win.
 
Only Michigan has more seniors on the Senior Watch List. Utah has 9. In the PAC-12, USC is second, with 7 (one of them is Tui'kolovatu). And Utah's senior watch list doesn't include Lotulelei, Marcus Williams, Tim Patrick (which he may not belong on this list), Domo Hatfield, Mokofisi (who is better than Tui'kolovatu), Phillips.

Utah will be really, really good this year. Next year depends on how the QB's, TE's, RB's, WR's, LB'ers, and DB's pan out....So, enjoy this year, cause next year (2017) we may be a 6-8 win team.
 
Worst case scenario is your QB is really bad and you only lose 4 games? Lol, I think there is a lot more worse case scenarios. Worst case is you have a slew of injuries poor qb play and your team losses a few early games and gives up on the season.

ESPN projections have you at a disadvantage against USC, Cal, UCLA, Washington, Arizona State and Oregon. The projected W-L is 6.4 - 5.7 record.
They give you a 0% chance of winning out and a 1.5% chance of winning your conference.

My Ducks have a much more talented roster but QB is the most important position in college football by a lot. I know the QB is slightly less important to the Utes but your QB can make or break your season in the Pac-10. I am worried about this season for my Ducks for that reason. Last year we had a good team but having a first year QB in our system hurt and having no depth behind him really hurt with his broken hand and other injuries. This years QB is supposed to be better but that is always a big unknown until the season gets going. I think Utes worse case could be really rough if your completely unknown QB situation doesn't pan out. Utes might be a better team or have more talent but that doesnt mean you will win those games. Hard to guarantee a win against any team you play except SUU.
 
Broncster said:
Worst case scenario is your QB is really bad and you only lose 4 games? Lol, I think there is a lot more worse case scenarios. Worst case is you have a slew of injuries poor qb play and your team losses a few early games and gives up on the season.

ESPN projections have you at a disadvantage against USC, Cal, UCLA, Washington, Arizona State and Oregon. The projected W-L is 6.4 - 5.7 record.
They give you a 0% chance of winning out and a 1.5% chance of winning your conference.

My Ducks have a much more talented roster but QB is the most important position in college football by a lot. I know the QB is slightly less important to the Utes but your QB can make or break your season in the Pac-10. I am worried about this season for my Ducks for that reason. Last year we had a good team but having a first year QB in our system hurt and having no depth behind him really hurt with his broken hand and other injuries. This years QB is supposed to be better but that is always a big unknown until the season gets going. I think Utes worse case could be really rough if your completely unknown QB situation doesn't pan out. Utes might be a better team or have more talent but that doesnt mean you will win those games. Hard to guarantee a win against any team you play except SUU.
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The flip side of that argument is that Utah has been absolutely horrible in the passing game the last 2 seasons and still managed to win 19 games. I agree that it's very important that Troy Williams plays well if Utah wants to have a special season but I don't really see how he can be a downgrade from what they just had. I agree that no win is a guarantee but if Utah stumbles to 5 or 6 wins, the wheels would have to come off defensively.

With Oregon, my outside perception is that the deeper you get into the Helfrich era, there are more chinks in the armor starting to appear. A school that recruits as well as they do really doesn't have an excuse for going the FBS route to find a QB for 2 straight years. Why is he having so much trouble recruiting QB's? I also think teams like Michigan State, Utah and Stanford have shown that if you physically punch Oregon in the mouth, they tend to wilt. I'm excited for their trip to SLC this year. I'm sure last years game will be a big rallying cry for Oregon and they will be more than up for this one. It will be interesting to see if Whittingham can put another game plan together that gives Utah a chance.
 
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