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Official Utah/Minnesota/Philadelphia Pick Watch

Saint Cy of JFC said:
Have a hard time seeing Minnesota not getting better. Obviously Conley's health is a huge swing factor. Adds a level of uncertainty that could help the pick.

Yeah, there will be some learning curve with a new team, but Rudy being there should make the transition easier for Mike.

The defense will get better. Edwards will get more touches. When KAT comes back the offense will function better than if it was Ant/KAT/DLo all trying to get shots.

And you liked NAW. I kind of like him too, but the vibes between him and Hardy just werent there. I think NAW is better than Austin Rivers, like way better. IDK if they will actually play him over Rivers cuz of vet status stuff, but he's way better.
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I was joking on the Conley stuff. I think Rivers has been really good for them... not sure its a huge improvement if at all... more a depth piece or injury insurance.

The will improve but I don't expect them to move up the standings. They have 15 road games left vs. 9 at home. They have pretty tough opponents on top of it. To get in the top 6 they have to pass 2 of NO/Dallas/Clips/Phoenix while making sure GS and Porty don't pass them (I think they are safe there). I think they can improve and end up exactly where they are in the standings. It would take an Ant injury to miss the play in. I think it would take them getting super hot to rise above the play in. I think the KAT assimilation will be a rough 3-4 games and margins are razor thin.

If they end up in the lotto its because they lost the play in tournament. As it stands if it started today they'd have to win either a road game against the Pelicans or a home game against the Warriors or Blazers. They would probably be able to do that... but its no certainty. If I was placing odds... I'd say there is a 70% the pick is outside the lotto... but its still like 17/18 which is good and I think we could move up to the 9-12 range if we wanted to by using other picks.
 
Saint Cy of JFC said:
Have a hard time seeing Minnesota not getting better. Obviously Conley's health is a huge swing factor. Adds a level of uncertainty that could help the pick.

Yeah, there will be some learning curve with a new team, but Rudy being there should make the transition easier for Mike.

The defense will get better. Edwards will get more touches. When KAT comes back the offense will function better than if it was Ant/KAT/DLo all trying to get shots.

And you liked NAW. I kind of like him too, but the vibes between him and Hardy just werent there. I think NAW is better than Austin Rivers, like way better. IDK if they will actually play him over Rivers cuz of vet status stuff, but he's way better.
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Yeah I struggle to see them not getting better as well. Conley is just a winning player (playoffs aside). I feel that Danny believes this trade has a higher chance of variance for the Wolves to have done it. I have been trying to talk myself into us overpaying to boost the Lakers so that they can pass the Wolves, but they are 4 games back and that seems pretty huge with only ~25 games left. There's the chance of them being more likely to knock them out in the play-in I guess.

IDK. Conley's hammy is always an issue, and maybe we thought them have a $20M cap hit next season with a 36 year old Conley would be beneficial. Still feel like we made the Wolves better, didn't improve the Lakers enough for them to pass the Wolves. The pick is decent, the deadline didn't end up being the seller's market that was hypothesized.
 
Jaanipoeg said:
Yeah I struggle to see them not getting better as well. Conley is just a winning player (playoffs aside). I feel that Danny believes this trade has a higher chance of variance for the Wolves to have done it. I have been trying to talk myself into us overpaying to boost the Lakers so that they can pass the Wolves, but they are 4 games back and that seems pretty huge with only ~25 games left. There's the chance of them being more likely to knock them out in the play-in I guess.

IDK. Conley's hammy is always an issue, and maybe we thought them have a $20M cap hit next season with a 36 year old Conley would be beneficial. Still feel like we made the Wolves better, didn't improve the Lakers enough for them to pass the Wolves. The pick is decent, the deadline didn't end up being the seller's market that was hypothesized.
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I think you just have to make moves that directly affect your own roster. If all things are equal it is better to not help teams you don't want to... but the most important thing is that we offloaded vets and will improve our own draft prospects by leaps and bounds. Its not a move that benefits them long term. There were scenarios where they could have had cap space but those are now gone.
 
Remember the rough start we had when we first traded for Conley? Minnesota could have a rough final stretch here. It’s hard to integrate a new PG mid-season. They’re getting smacked by Memphis.
 
Elizah Huge said:
Remember the rough start we had when we first traded for Conley? Minnesota could have a rough final stretch here. It’s hard to integrate a new PG mid-season. They’re getting smacked by Memphis.
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I want that pick in the lottery so badly!

Still think the Jazz fall off at the end here and into a top 10 pick, but it would be so amazing to have the timberwolves join them there.
 
Watched part of the Twolves game and I think Conley makes them look better, despite what the box score says. Rudy looked much happier too.

I think the question will be how long it will take for Conley to get used to everybody. I saw him make a few passes to nobody, expecting someone to be in a certain position. Hopefully, for our draft pick, it happens later rather than sooner.
 
Jaanipoeg said:
I had a dream last night that Westbrook represented us at the draft lottery and we won the #2 pick, in case any of you want to buy some futures on that
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The last time someone had a dream here, it was about getting the number 3 pick and taking Kanter. Do you know what happened next?
 
infection said:
The last time someone had a dream here, it was about getting the number 3 pick and taking Kanter. Do you know what happened next?
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Meh, that is a somewhat impressive dream. Had the dream included Kanter being the worst defensive player in history, Turkish govt. putting a bounty on his head and Enis changing his last name to "Freedom" I would be super impressed. Don't let your dreams limit you.
 
Watched that Lakers game skipping some of it (focus on Vando and Beasley minutes) and we did them a solid.

Lebron was out, AD had a serious case of fumbleitis (TO, not catching passes, missing bunnies) but they got depth now. Others picked up the slack and bench held up their end of the bargain.

Beasley looked horrible on both ends... like even worse than with us.. but Vando was a beast in his limited minutes.

Oh and beating GSW in their building has been hard with or without Steph playing.
 
We play Indiana tomorrow who is currently in the 6th spot in the lottery. It will be a huge swing game for us either way. A win puts us up by 4 in the loss column and a loss puts us down by 2 in the loss column. If we lose we will be tied for 7th in the lottery going by losses.

Minnesota plays at Dallas tomorrow which bodes well for us I think. They follow that up with two home games against Washington and Charlotte before heading on a tough road trip. If Minnesota loses against Dallas and goes 1-1 against the other two we will be in a great spot. They have a really rough remaining schedule after that.
 
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