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Maybe trade Crowder for something to free up money too...to go get Kemba.

Kemba-Augustin at partial MLE-Neto
Mitchell-Allen-1st
Ingles-O'Neale
Love-partial MLE-Niang
Gobert-?
 
Before we sign or trade anybody, we need to find a way to start Royce O'Neale. What a beast he was tonight.

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Royce was the lone bright spot in the playoffs. The only one who played consistently all the time. He did the best job on harden, hit the 3, stayed focused. If everyone around him had played with 60% of his consistency we'd be advancing.
 
I think I'd do Love (28.9M) and their 1st from Houston (pick 25?) for Favors, Exum, and Korver--that's 33.5M.

I may even consider it without the 1st. This would free them up big time money-wise, give them a legit 4/5 and an intriguing prospect in Exum. I'm not sure they'd want to do that as Love may fill seats but yet bring mostly losses--which might be smart on their end. And FWIW, Thompson has just one more year on his deal there. Favors could get about 5-8 minutes at the 4 (with TT at the 5) and see another 20-22 minutes at the 5.

If we renounced Rubio, Sef, and Udoh, we'd be at 88.158M if my math is right for:

Neto
Mitchell-Allen
Ingles-O'Neale
Love-Crowder-Niang
Gobert-Bradley

If we could shed Neto and Bradley too, we'd then have about 4M more in cap space and about 25M total. That could net us a legit point guard (especially if we pulled this trade off during draft--I know it can't be official til after) in that we might be a more attractive team/contender than before the trade.

We'd also have two 1sts in this draft which we could use in many different ways...moving up...flipping for a team's 1st next year...in trading for a pg somehow.
I like the idea, but I think it will take a first and a second to get Love. DL doesn’t have any bargaining power, and if we get to the point where we’re considering Love, then it’s because we’re desperate. Despite it being obvious that Cleveland needs to dump him, they can point to the fact that they gave him that awful extension last year as why they’re not eager to dump him, and ultimately we’ll rationalize that we’re landing a 4-time all star and we’ll pony up the pick.
 
What is going on?? Even the notion of the thought of trading Gobert is ridiculous!! Wasn’t he second in win shares? Teams never get even value when trading stars. Trading Gobert means we get worse, not better. It would be much easier to keep Gobert and add shooters than trading Gobert for a scorer than having to find another star player. Gobert ain’t going anywhere. I’m not even sure we are a playoff team without Gobert.
Are you slow too?? It's a fantasy exercise. Get over it. It's like you see trade Gobert and your eyes glaze over and want to make a statement while sitting on your high horse. Idiot..!!
 
I like the idea, but I think it will take a first and a second to get Love. DL doesn’t have any bargaining power, and if we get to the point where we’re considering Love, then it’s because we’re desperate. Despite it being obvious that Cleveland needs to dump him, they can point to the fact that they gave him that awful extension last year as why they’re not eager to dump him, and ultimately we’ll rationalize that we’re landing a 4-time all star and we’ll pony up the pick.

If we traded for love I think it is pre-draft... I don’t think we get desperate and do it. Doing it pre-draft allows us to use MLE and BAE to fill out the rest of the roster and retain Ricky if they want to.
 
If we traded for love I think it is pre-draft... I don’t think we get desperate and do it. Doing it pre-draft allows us to use MLE and BAE to fill out the rest of the roster and retain Ricky if they want to.

Love and Rubio as our big off season move? My appendix just burst and I’m pretty sure my left kidney is about to fail.

Love and Rubio? Jesus ****
 
I think it's gotta be a trade. We need to target guys teams want to sell. One of these guys:

Jrue - very tough and unlikely, but maybe NOLA sells.

Conley - if Memphis gives their pick to Boston, Conley has zero value there. He is the most likely.

Love - easily attainable and easily regrettable.

Winslow - if Miami is trying to dump bad contracts, he might become available.

Griffin - doubt Detroit sells him but we should try for him if they do

Some young player who demands out. Maybe a Jaylen Brown, Kyle Kuzma, Brandon Ingram type.

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I think it's gotta be a trade. We need to target guys teams want to sell. One of these guys:

Jrue - very tough and unlikely, but maybe NOLA sells.

Conley - if Memphis gives their pick to Boston, Conley has zero value there. He is the most likely.

Love - easily attainable and easily regrettable.

Winslow - if Miami is trying to dump bad contracts, he might become available.

Griffin - doubt Detroit sells him but we should try for him if they do

Some young player who demands out. Maybe a Jaylen Brown, Kyle Kuzma, Brandon Ingram type.

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I’d like to see what Snyder can do with Kuzma or Brown.

But I’m hoping for more. DL needs to land a free agent and then do a trade I think. Time to spend is now. If he does so we have a legit window.
 
I like the idea, but I think it will take a first and a second to get Love. DL doesn’t have any bargaining power, and if we get to the point where we’re considering Love, then it’s because we’re desperate. Despite it being obvious that Cleveland needs to dump him, they can point to the fact that they gave him that awful extension last year as why they’re not eager to dump him, and ultimately we’ll rationalize that we’re landing a 4-time all star and we’ll pony up the pick.

I don’t think so. In just over a year, by doing this, Cleveland could be out from under Love and TT. That’s 50M off the books. Favors, Korver and Exum also all come off—maybe Exum has one more year actually but that could be a valuable asset for them.

Sexton-Nance-1st rounder this year-Exum-Favors and a high 2020 1st could be enough to build around in the East.
 
Love and Rubio as our big off season move? My appendix just burst and I’m pretty sure my left kidney is about to fail.

Love and Rubio? Jesus ****

Oh yeah... don’t get me wrong... it sucks da poopy.
 
If we traded for love I think it is pre-draft... I don’t think we get desperate and do it. Doing it pre-draft allows us to use MLE and BAE to fill out the rest of the roster and retain Ricky if they want to.
It could be before the draft, but Favors’ guarantee date is July 7, so it would afford DL the opportunity to exhaust all options for free agency before making the panic play for Love. I think this would assuming missing on Conley again, but I don’t think we offer up two firsts at this point, especially now that we can’t trade for Conley unless we give up the golden child Exum because salary matching (unless we used capspace, which would be dumb).
 
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