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Our “load management” strategy has been horrible

Thee Idiotic Minivan K said:
I don’t know. I think I’d rather get it over with with 1 o2 pops then stagger it and be at less than full strength for a week.
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How does it help resting all those guys when Ingles, Bojan, and JC all push 40 or more? By the time everyone else comes back, we'll need to load manage Bojan, JC, and Ingles, and play Donovan, Rudy, and Mike heavily to do so.
 
infection said:
There's a timeout with 7 seconds left and we left JC and Bojan out there. You can't plug Oni in? He's sold as the reason we didn't need to upgrade wing defense and when we're down three starters, he still doesn't see the floor for a defensive possession?
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Just can't emphasize it enough, to win it all our perimeter D has to do better than the level that Royce is currently showing. Classic example of regular season intensity vs. playoffs intensity when it matters.
 
I am guessing that we weren’t sure how competitive we would end up being in today’s game and then it ended up being very close so we went for it.

I also think since it was on ESPN they might not have been real happy with is sitting Joe and JC on top of all the other guys being out.

The middle of the road approach is a little curious but when Rudy’s crystal speaks we have to listen I guess.
 
Tonight was the second night of a back to back. This is definitely the game to rest players if you’re going to rest anyone. I like the choice, though did worry about those minutes for Ingles and I think it showed.

it was an entertaining game despite all of the all stars being out.
 
seeding doesn't matter at all tbh.....

anything can happen in these western conference playoffs. I wouldn't even be surprised if the jazz manage to get bounced in the 1st round. staying healthy is huge.
 
infection said:
How does it help resting all those guys when Ingles, Bojan, and JC all push 40 or more? By the time everyone else comes back, we'll need to load manage Bojan, JC, and Ingles, and play Donovan, Rudy, and Mike heavily to do so.
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Well hell Quin obviously should’ve realized before hand the game would go into overtime, WTF was he thinking??!!
 
Thee Idiotic Minivan K said:
Well hell Quin obviously should’ve realized before hand the game would go into overtime, WTF was he thinking??!!
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Oh, sorry... let me adjust for that:

JC 41 mins and 35 minutes for Ingles, Bojan and Royce.

Yes, wonderful.
 
There is a good chance that ending up as 2nd or 3rd seed may be just as good as the number 1 seed. Just play the game and respond as players need it.
 
gomretat said:
There is a good chance that ending up as 2nd or 3rd seed may be just as good as the number 1 seed. Just play the game and respond as players need it.
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What constitutes a “real-time response to a player’s needs”? There have been a lot of attempts to improve the gathering of evidence in shorter and more responsive increments, but it remains very difficult to do. And there’s already a lot we know about the risk of injury on b2bs and when you run into 40+ minutes.

It isn’t a stretch to say that yesterday wasn’t the greatest management. I agree with HH... they found the game was within reach and decided the risks of wringing more out of the players was worth it.

I won’t say that they were wrong..... but I will say I wish it were otherwise. I see Oni and Hughes’s playing time and roll my eyes.
 

The Spurs rested DeMar DeRozan, Jakob Poeltl and Patty Mills in their 111-85 win over the Suns on Saturday night.

I have always been a fan of the thought that their team is expected to win while resting key players.
 
Yep, there is no possible way Joe Ingles will recover from the extra 8 minutes he had to play in ONE damn game. Heavy minutes is a problem when it happens consistently. The Jazz have actually done a masterful job of not playing their stars long minute all season and using their depth. Ingles, Royce, and Bojan recently had some time off. They weren't going to break in 6 extra minutes of play time.

It was both the right call to rest a bunch f players AND try to win the game. Stop being such ninnies!
 
vegas said:

The Spurs rested DeMar DeRozan, Jakob Poeltl and Patty Mills in their 111-85 win over the Suns on Saturday night.

I have always been a fan of the thought that their team is expected to win while resting key players.
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What in the everloving holy **** is a 25k fine supposed to do to keep anyone in line in a league like the NBA? That's literally asking them to pay a $0.25 fine compared to revenue and profit. It's just another way the league pays lip service to maintaining levels of competition.
 
framer said:
Yep, there is no possible way Joe Ingles will recover from the extra 8 minutes he had to play in ONE damn game. Heavy minutes is a problem when it happens consistently. The Jazz have actually done a masterful job of not playing their stars long minute all season and using their depth. Ingles, Royce, and Bojan recently had some time off. They weren't going to break in 6 extra minutes of play time.

It was both the right call to rest a bunch f players AND try to win the game. Stop being such ninnies!
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If those minutes are ultimately meaningless, then why are we resting people?
 
infection said:
If our strategy with Phoenix is to bank on them losing, then that’s often not a great strategy and tends to backfire a lot. The universe goes out it’s way to make sure we get the worst outcome, too, when we fail to put forth a bit of effort and expect “the odds” to play out. Go watch the last day of the 2019 season, for instance.
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Agreed. It might work out but I don't know ... it feels like every time you're banking on another team to do something, it never happens.

I get the Jazz still control their own destiny but these games against bad teams, or depleted teams, that you lose makes relying on Phoenix to drop a few more games all the more likely.
 
I think people freak out wayyyy too much about a few minutes here and there when it comes to resting players. I'm not even sure that Quin leaves his players in during blowouts more than other teams but I see that complaint over and over. The losing team is waves the white flag first, that's as old as time. If I'm being honest, I think it's really just fans wanting to see the young guys which is also as old as time. The real reason why people whine so much about this stuff is because they want to see Elijah Hughes play or whatever.

Nobody on the this tame plays huge minutes. I don't think it's a big deal that someone plays a few more minutes every now and then. I don't think it's a big deal that the starters stay in for a minute or two when the game is in hand. Likewise, I don't think it's a big deal that Quin played his players bigger minutes in a game that had OT.

When it comes to rest, the more impactful decision is whether the player suits up or not. 5-10 minutes on any given night isn't going to make a difference, but getting the chance to completely rest your body for the day will. I personally would have liked to see Bogey, Ingles, O'Neale, Clarkson ect all sit....but if they had pulled that win off I'd also probably be saying it was worth it for them to play. I am hopeful that we see some consistent full rest days for the rotation players...which says a lot about the sad state of the regular season but that's a different discussion.

People are always nickel and diming Quin/FO office for the wrong things IMO.
 
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