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My only comment for this thread is that it makes me miss northeast. With northeast around this thread would be two or three times as long as it is now.
 
SaltyDawg said:
Why did the dems bring a bill to the floor that included spending cuts if they didn't want spending cuts in the bill?

I'm not following you here, can you clarify?
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The Dems want tax increases and no spending cuts. They know that they will never get both from the republicans who want no tax increases and spending cuts.

The Dems simply value the tax increases more.
 
SaltyDawg said:
Why did the dems bring a bill to the floor that included spending cuts if they didn't want spending cuts in the bill?

I'm not following you here, can you clarify?
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You have to keep in mind that to Dems a spending cut is simply reducing the amount that the program will increase the following year. It has nothing to do with actually spending less money next year than in previous years.
 
A great article from the right wing hate machine making fun of this manufactured crisis. Get ready for Fiscal Cliff 2.0 that they pushed just a little ways down the road from this.

https://www.nationalreview.com/articles/342014/sequestageddon-mark-steyn

It’s not just the U.S. fleet and air-traffic control and clean water that have been swept into the garbage can of history by Sequestageddon, but even the most venerable Beltway colossus. In time the Rockies may crumble, Gibraltar may tumble, but surely Bob Woodward is here to stay — or so we thought until he ventured some very mild criticism of the president’s negotiating technique, which appears to be a cross between a suicide-bomber and Cleavon Little taking himself hostage in Blazing Saddles. In a flash, Woodward’s four decades of loyal service were forgotten and the court eunuchs of the Obama media turned on their own: He’s about one news cycle away from being revealed as on the take from the Koch brothers and the real father of Trig Palin.
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I've never read Mark Steyn before. Is he usually this funny in a non-Ann Coulter grating way?
 
Scat said:
You have to keep in mind that to Dems a spending cut is simply reducing the amount that the program will increase the following year. It has nothing to do with actually spending less money next year than in previous years.
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I get that. Kind of like the closing of loopholes and only extending 90% of a temporary decrease being considered tax increases to republicans.

But in this particular bill (the one the Senate republicans filibustered the other day), are you saying there were no actual cuts, and only reduced increases? That's actually a serious question, as I don't know the specifics of this particular bill. I've read that it had a bunch of cuts and reduced the deficit by 1.8 trillion dollars, but I haven't seen the specifics.
 
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